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Star Trek: The Next Generation Rewatch: “Datalore”

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Published on June 16, 2011

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“Datalore”
Written by Robert Lewin and Maurice Hurley and Gene Roddenberry
Directed by Rob Bowman
Season 1, Episode 12
Production episode 40271-114
Original air date: January 18, 1988
Stardate: 41242.4

Captain’s Log: Because the Enterprise is passing near Omicron Theta, the planet where Data was found, Picard decides to stop by and check the place out. Riker takes a team down to the planet—which has no life readings at all, not even plant life. Data leads them to the spot where the team from the U.S.S. Tripoli found Data, lying out in the open. Data has the memories of all 411 colonists downloaded into his own brain, but of the colonists themselves, there is no sign.

La Forge finds a secret door in an outcropping that leads the team to a huge underground complex. There is plenty of equipment, but still no life readings. Each revelation awakens a memory remnant in Data, including that some of his functions were tested in one of the labs they discover.

Data remembers one section as being Dr. Soong’s workstation—Dr. Noonian Soong, a premier roboticist who failed to create a positronic brain, then disappeared (points to the script for name-checking the late great Isaac Asimov when mentioning the positronic brain). Data recalls that Soong came to the colony under an assumed name. Apparently, he finally succeeded….

La Forge finds a storage area that contains the disassembled parts of another android that looks just like Data. Data wishes to reassemble the android, so the parts are taken back to the ship. Crusher and Chief Engineer Argyle work in tandem to put this other android together. Data reveals to Crusher that he has an “off switch” that can render him unconscious for a set period of time.

After assembly, the other android awakens, calling himself “Lore,” and claiming that Data was made first, deemed imperfect, and Lore was built as an improvement. Lore also has an odd twitch.

Lore shows considerably more emotion than Data, and Data figures out quickly that Lore was, in fact, constructed first. The colonists were totally freaked out by him, and petitioned for Lore to be disassembled. Dr. Soong constructed Data as an android that would be less human than Lore was.

The Enterprise soon determines that the colony was wiped out by a crystalline entity that feeds on organic life. Data was safe because he is inorganic.

In the guise of teaching Data more about being human by drinking champagne with him, Lore slips Data a mickey—proving that having a positronic brain the size of a planet still means you fall for the oldest trick in the book—and switches outfits.

Lore comes to the bridge disguised as Data just as the crystalline entity that wiped out Omicron Theta approaches the ship. Lore pretends to be Data and claims he can demonstrate the Enterprise‘s power by beaming a tree to the side of it and having the ship’s phasers destroy it—an unnecessarily complicated plan that Picard inexplicably goes for. Lore’s intent is to let the deflectors drop for transport, thus allowing the entity to destroy the Enterprise.

The Crushers—having been kicked off the bridge for Wes’s insolence in stating the blindingly obvious that Data isn’t Data—awaken the real Data and, rather than summon security, instead confront Lore alone, and nearly get themselves killed. However, Wes beams Lore into space, thus ending the threat.

If I Only Had a Brain…: This episode provides us with TNG‘s first major retcon, as it’s announced that Data cannot use contractions—this despite the fact that he has used contractions repeatedly since “Encounter at Farpoint.” He even uses contractions once or twice in this episode. Once the second season kicks in, Data’s inability to use contractions becomes more codified, but in this episode the plot point makes very little sense given how Brent Spiner had been talking for the last dozen episodes….

Still, we also get Data’s full backstory: being constructed by the disgraced robotocist Dr. Noonian Soong at the Omicron Theta colony, with Lore having been built first, and then luring the crystalline entity to the colony to destroy it right before he’s disassembled. More such backstory would show up in later episodes, among them “The Schizoid Man,” “Brothers,” “Silicon Avatar,” “Inheritance,” “Descent,” and Star Trek: Nemesis, all of them building on what was established in this episode.

The Boy!? Wes sees Lore shortly after he disguises himself as Data, and notices the use of contractions and the facial tic. When he tries to explain his suspicions to the bridge crew—admittedly in a particularly ham-handed manner—Picard and Riker seem far more interested in admonishing Wes than actually doing what’s best for the ship. However, Wes gets to save the day again, beaming Lore off the ship before he can shoot Data with a phaser.

There is No Honor in Being Pummeled: Lore beats the crap out of Worf in the turbolift to show how tough he is. Why crying “emergency close” closes off all options isn’t made clear. (Why didn’t the security guards get the doors back open? Why didn’t Worf yell “emergency open”?) But hey, Lore must be tough, he can beat up the Klingon….

Welcome Aboard: With Spiner doing double duty as Data and Lore, the only guest is Biff Yeager, returning as Chief Engineer Argyle, the only member of the First Season Chief Engineer Derby to appear twice (having previously been in “Where No One Has Gone Before“).

I Believe I Said That: “Shut up, Wesley!”

Said by Picard, Crusher, and even Wes himself. (Not to mention half the viewership for much of the first season….)

Trivial Matters: This would be Gene Roddenberry’s last script credit on Star Trek before his death. He named Data’s creator after the same World War II buddy—Kim Noonien Singh—after whom Khan from “Space Seed” and The Wrath of Khan was named. In a nice touch, Star Trek Enterprise would establish an ancestor of Soong’s named Arik (also played by Spiner) who got involved with the Augments, the genetically engineered descendants of Khan’s people. The similarity in names could easily be explained by the Soong family’s connections to the Eugenics Wars.

Immortal Coil by Jeffrey Lang

The novel Immortal Coil by Jeffrey Lang does much to bring together the various artificial intelligences seen in Star Trek over the years.

Make It So: What a dreadful episode. While it’s important in the grand scheme of things in what it establishes about Data’s background, the episode itself is horrendously bad, from the clumsy script to the embarrassingly inept body-double work.

The crew’s trust of Lore—allowing him free rein of the ship, Data leaving him alone in his quarters—is absurd, and the inability of anybody other than Wes to notice that Lore has disguised himself as Data strains credulity to the breaking point.

Lore asks Data, “And you want to be as stupid as them?” and it’s a legitimate question, given how stupid the humans in this episode act. The crew of the Enterprise are all dumb as posts in this one. Data falls for Lore putting a mickey in his champagne, and Riker and Wes fall for the “he senses you, you must leave” ruse. I was half-expecting Lore to tell Riker his shoelaces were untied. And then, despite Lore-as-Data referring to the first officer as “Riker” without rank, which Data never does, and not understanding what Picard means by “make it so,” Picard agrees to his Rube Goldbergesque plan and lets him go alone to the cargo bay. When Worf’s security detail is taken out, nobody else on the ship notices, and when the Crushers awaken Data, the three go alone to the cargo bay without telling anyone else.

And then in the end, the crystalline entity just—well, leaves. Very anticlimactic.

The best that can be said for the episode is that Spiner’s teeth marks are all over the scenery when he’s onscreen as Lore.

Warp factor rating: 4.


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don3comp
13 years ago

I have to confess, I don’t remember the episode being =that= bad (it would have looked far worse to me had it been part of any other season). I remember enjoying Brent Spiner’s double performance and finding the Giant Snowflake–I mean Crystaline Entity–visually attractive. However, the “bad prototype-good 2nd one” concept had already been used on “Knight Rider” a few years earlier, with KARR and KITT.

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don3comp
13 years ago

“(Roddenberry) named Data’s creator after the same World War II buddy—Kim Noonien Singh—after whom Khan from “Space Seed” and The Wrath of Khan was named…”

That’s touching: “we’re such good friends that I’m going to name a villain and a mad scientist after you!” =chortle=

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13 years ago

sorry guys I sort of like this one. After “The Maltese Hologram” and “When will you settle down and marry a nice boy….in SPACE?” I think I will take the one with confilct.

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Mike S.
13 years ago

This one does have a lot of holes, but Brent Spiner’s super acting saves the show, IMO (he’d take it up another notch in “Brothers” a couple of years later). If you didn’t like this one, I can’t wait for next week, when we get “Angel One,” which might be my least favorite of the entire first season (lots of competition there). At least the Bynar show is coming up soon (runs neck-and-neck with “Conspiracy” as my favorite Season 1 show).

I’m also beginning to think that it was this point in the season where Denise Crosby started to get pissed off. Other then the beginning of “Hide and Q”, she really has not had anything to do since “Code of Honor”, and I thought that the pilot was written to eventually make her the breakout character. Why she didn’t lead the team to follow Lore is beyond me, although she at least didn’t get her butt kicked.

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Christopher L. Bennett
13 years ago

The main thing about “Datalore” that deserves praise is the splitscreen work allowing Spiner to interact with himself as Data and Lore. It was really cutting-edge stuff for its day, actually anticipating the kind of splitscreen work that earned high praise in slightly later films such as Dead Ringers and Back to the Future Part II. Things like having Lore put a glass down and Data pick it up in the same shot, for example.

But yeah, the episode does have a lot of problems. The basic storyline doesn’t really add up. Nobody knew who built Data, but as soon as they found the lab and heard the name Noonien Soong, they instantly recognized him as the only roboticist working on anything like Data? (The silliness of it became further compounded when Spiner was cast as Soong in “Brothers.” You’d think the fact that Data looked exactly like the young Soong would be a pretty big clue who built him.)

And I could’ve done without the “positronic brain” nod. Sure, a nice literary allusion, but it makes no scientific sense. Asimov (a biologist) just chose “positronic” because it sounded like a more futuristic equivalent to “electronic.” But it basically means a computer with antiparticles in its circuits, which if it’s made of matter would pretty much be self-annihilating.

In the episode’s defense, it didn’t actually say that Data was incapable of using contractions, just that he “tend[ed] to speak more formally than Lore.” His avoidance of contractions was presented as a personal habit, not an absolute mental block. Blame later episodes like “The Offspring” for misinterpreting it as a complete inability to do something as simple as formulating a contraction. (Although it is true that he used contractions routinely before this episode, and even once or twice in the early parts of this episode.)

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Chesssara
13 years ago

Once or twice in the early parts of the episode?? How about at the very end!! When he tells Picard: “Yes sir, I’m fine”??????

But you do have a point in that in this episode at least it seems that the idea was that Data merely spoke more formally than Lore….

You know, I also remembered this episode as being better that it is….this time around the holes and sheer stupidity of people who ought to know better was painful to watch, i.e. Picard agreeing to the plan, no one reacting to Lore addressing Riker as just Riker, Worf getting trapped like that and no alarm being sounded by the rest of the security team that something was going on…painful!

Still, as others have said, at least it serves to establish Data’s background and Spiner’s work is wonderful.

Gosh, I can’t wait for this season to be over and we get to episodes that don’t make me cringe!

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13 years ago

it seems so STUPID to have such an advanced android that can’t use contractions.

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euphbass
13 years ago

It seems to me that this re-watch is turning into nothing more than a Star Trek bashing excercise. Yes, it was cheesy, but you’ve got to just suspend your disbelief and go with the flow – enjoy it! And maybe try and find a few more positives, rather than focussing on the negatives?

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Jeff R.
13 years ago

Don@1: The ‘prototype version that is evil, largely due to an increased desire for personal freedom coupled with a wide amoral streak’ is a bit older than Knight Rider; it goes all the way back to the Lilith myth…

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13 years ago

I submit my friends that it’s not that bad a trope to use with Data After all there had to BE a prototype making him evil is a fun idea.

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euphbass
13 years ago

I really like the TNG characters, and I really don’t like watching them be dumb as boxes of rocks.

I can empathise with that! I do wish the writing was better (it’s worrying when I realise I could write some of the episodes better, and these guys were being paid to write them – did they not have editors?) but I guess I find it very easy to put aside these things and just enjoy it as Star Trek and almost use my imagination to “correct” it as I watch it. I am probably the most tolerant film/TV viewer ever though – things almost everyone else says are rubbish I invariably enjoy hugely as fluff – loads of fun, hardly Oscar winning material!

Also, I probably have a bit of a defensive reflex with people criticising Star Trek (people being almost all my contemporaries when I was growing up, and an awful lot of people I know now) – I took a lot of stick for liking it, and even as an adult I don’t generally admit to it much because of the strange looks I get, or the overt criticism of it that always seems to ensue.

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CaptHart
13 years ago

Sorry for the necro posting but I’m catching my way back up to current episode and was suprised that no one had pointed out the following:

Per the MemoryAlpha definition of holodeck, “A holodeck combines transporter technology with that of replicators, by generating actual matter, as well as projecting force fields to give the objects the illusion of substance.” Given that, a replicated snowball that could leave real H2O on Picard and could leave the hologrid confines is feasible and not necessarily a bug in the code.

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Ensign Jayburd
13 years ago

This episode is really only useful insofar as it gives us Data’s backstory. Yet another example of a first season episode with a great idea, but poor execution. But I have to love it anyway, because it led to “Brothers” which is one of my favorites.

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Big Joe S.
12 years ago

I dissent. This episode is good storytelling. Picard is very legitimately interested in Data’s background-and wants to give him a chance to explore that. And Data has that chance to get to know who he is. Omicron Theta is just spooky enough as an empty house. The premise that there was a predecessor to Data that had humanity (and indeed, human fallacy-Lore is a depraved maniac-and indeed was made too human in that he shares that depravity). And the crew has to confront that possibility-what if Data was made too human and is just as depraved as, say, Michael Ross or Robert Schulman or Son of Sam. I think it is a reach to say that Lore could drug Data with champagne-but, it further elucidates Lore’s depravity. And the Crystalline Entity is an interesting lurking co-villain-one that we would find out is not truly a villain. But there is a real risk there. Ron Jones does a masterful job with a great score-especially with Lore’s theme. And, there is something comedic about Wesley being the only one to recognize and Picard and Riker bumbling about there. Oops!!!
I actually really enjoyed seeing this ep on the big screen in the Theatre with LeVar Burton last July. The episode came to life beautifully both visually and otherwise on the big screen. And it’s strong in a weak season.
So, I respectfully dissent.

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Electone
12 years ago

Being a 1st Season fan, this one became a bit of a surprise upon rewatch. Perhaps it was just the fun of seeing Spiner play both roles and his delicious delivery as Lore, but I was blinded as to how ridiculous the crew behaves in this one.

Why can’t the crew realize when Data is not really Data? In “The Schizoid Man” I can slightly understand the crew (especially Picard) not cluing in right away that Ira Graves had invaded Data’s body because: 1. No one knew Graves had the technology to accomplish this, and 2: They all thought Graves was dead.

But here, it’s almost like you want to take a baseball bat and hit them all over the head. Calling Riker “Riker”, not understanding what “Make it so” means, etc. etc. HELLO?!?

Ah, never mind. At least we get “Shut up, Wesley!”.

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ellisk
11 years ago

This episode doesn’t have a single redeeming characteristic. It is one of the top ten worst episodes in all of Star Trek. Every line in it is stupid, and the actors, well aware that they have found themselves in a stinker, are universally wooden. Don’t even think of telling me that Spiner’s performance as “Lore” redeems this episode in any way. Spiner mugs up Lore to such a degree that from the very instant he opens his mouth, a viewer is completely certain that Lore is a villian, and that takes all of the suspense out of the episode. The instances of stupidity are almost overwhelming, almost inconceivable, almost unimaginable. No one suspects Lore of impersonating Data, even with Wesley repeatedly yelling at them about it? Suddenly Lore/Data can communicate with the creature, which bears a striking resemblance to the creature shown in the schoolkids drawings (with terrified stick figure people fleeing for their lives), yet Picard assents to granting him transporter control so the ship can lower the shields that are repelling the murderous creature, and Lore/Data can replicate a tree out in space and destroy it with the ship’s phasers? Excuse me, what? I could sit here typing for the next hour about how utterly absurd and ridiculous this entire episode is from top to bottom–every line, every situation, every behaviour–an lazy insult to the intelligence of a four year old–just simply totally awful from beginning to end.

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jkpetrich
10 years ago

I find it interesting…. when you watch Spiner as Dr. Soong on Enterprise, it is very similar to Lore here. Lore is convinced that cybernetics are superier while Soong thought Augments were. THAT is something that is kind of frightning and may give another reason as to why Lore was shut down. They both had the same dangerous ideas.
I know thiat this is, again, a retcon, but something interesting to think about.

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Altair
10 years ago

It was frustrating to see how blind the crew was, ‘cept you Wesley, when they’ve encountered many personalities in their travels worthy of well-founded suspicion. The only thing I can think of was how implicitly the ship trusted Data and perhaps extended that same sense of trust, to their peril, to Lore. Lore was an OK premise but I understand the commenter who mentioned he was overacted (and I’m a big Spiner fan).

What I didn’t like were the double enemies that were in league. That Lore could communincate with the crystalline entity was never explained so it seemed very far-fetched. If one or the other served as the antagonist of the episode it could have offered a bit more insight and maybe made the threat, who/whichever it was, more believable. Or feature them both but don’t make Lore the summoner. Having the Enterprise, or any protagonist, face more than one threat can be done well, but this seemed cheap.

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luc
9 years ago

How was split-screen work cutting edge in 1988?  Remember The Patty Duke Show?  That used nothing but split screen, and that was 1963–in black and white.

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SethC
7 years ago

You wonder why this show is so bad Krad? The answer is: Gene Roddenberry wrote the teleplay. As you probably know, he wasn’t a particularly good or inspiring writer. “Star Trek: The Motion Picture” was his last major creative contribution and I don’t know about you, but my God is it dreadful. The most plodding, deathly dull film; only “Star Trek V” could be considered worse by anyone’s standards. By the point of “Datalore” he was seriously ill and addicted to numerable substances, legal and not; he mostly collected the royalty checks. Gene Coon introduced many of the iconic themes and races we now associate as “Star Trek;” the Klingons, the Federation, Starfleet Command, the Prime Directive and Khan. Without Harve Bennett’s intervention in “Star Trek II,” to revitalize the franchise, it would have ended entirely after “TMP.” Zefram Cochrane in “First Contact” was a thinly-disguised roman a clef of Roddenberry. That’s why the show sucked. Simple as that. I hope I’m not raining on anyone’s parade but nothing I’ve written here can’t be verified with half a dozen independent sources. Roddenberry was not a particularly talented writer and most of what he wrote had to be rewritten. When it wasn’t… it showed.     

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7 years ago

@22/SethC: By anyone’s standards but mine – I don’t like TMP nearly as much as the TV show, but I still like it better than TWOK.

I’ve never heard the theory that Cochrane in FC was supposed to be Roddenberry. Do you have a source for that?

Corylea
5 years ago

I’m not sure why people think the split screen stuff is so cutting edge, given that “The Enemy Within” did split-screen stuff back in 1966 … and was a much better episode, too.

 

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Spike
5 years ago

@25. I seem to remember a scene where Lore puts down a glass on a table and Data picks it up, and it was all done in one continuous shot. A small thing but I found it impressive at the time.

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mspence
5 years ago

Well I thought it was OK, mainly for Spiner’s performance, and Spiner seemed to have a lot of fun playing Lore. And Wesley got to prove he was right. But why was Lore just disassembled in the beginning instead of destroyed? And giving a potential threat free reign on Starfleet’s flagship isn’t new-see “Space Seed” “Changeling” “Charlie X,” etc.

ChristopherLBennett
5 years ago

@26/Spike: Yes. What’s impressive is the physical interaction between the split-screened characters, something that was still a novelty at the time. Before then, most split-screen shots in film and TV kept the characters completely separated, and any physical interaction was done with cutaways to a shot with the actor’s double seen from behind, or a close-up on just the hands, or whatever. And usually the shot composition was quite static, with nothing like the corridor shot in “Datalore” where Lore walks out of frame to the right and Data then follows him, crossing where the split-screen line had been (though he pauses to think for a few moments so there’s time to remove the split). That was only possible because TNG edited its VFX on video; before, inconsistencies in film grain and exposure often made the divide between halves of a split screen quite noticeable, so it was preferred to put it along some dividing line on the set such as a door frame or wall post or something, and moving or removing a split-screen line could cause a visible change that gave away the effect. There were occasional movies going back to the ’40s that tried the kind of ambitious shots used in “Datalore,” but they were rare. (This article talks about them, but its video clips are no longer available.)

 

@27/mspence: “But why was Lore just disassembled in the beginning instead of destroyed?”

Two reasons I can think of. One, Soong was reluctant to destroy one of his creations. Two, Lore was a sentient being and the Federation doesn’t have the death penalty. Presumably Soong wanted to put Lore in stasis, essentially, until he could find a way to repair Lore’s psychopathic tendencies

garreth
4 years ago

This isn’t a very good episode but at least it’s not boring.  I like the concept of the crystalline entity.  I always greatly like it when we get an alien that’s not just another humanoid with funny bumps on its forehead.  And Spiner does a great job chewing the scenery as Lore.  Great split screen work too which looks more convincing than other later attempts at it on Voyager.  

Yeah, when Lore shut the turbolift door on Worf the latter guy or the other officers could have said “emergency open.” It would actually have been hilarious if they kept trading, “emergency close” and “emergency open” back and forth.  That’s a joke that could work on the new Lower Decks series.

And Ron Jones is my favorite composer  on TNG but his score in this episode is too over the top, especially in the aforementioned turbolift scene.

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Picard_Is_Wesleys_Father
4 years ago

I like to consider the in-universe ramifications of Wesley. Sure, to us, the viewers, we see Wesley as the crude plot contrivance, the Mary Sue, the boy wonder that he is. But what remains mystifying is the disrespect he receives in the show itself. WE may deride him, but why is “shut up, Wesley” ever tolerated on the bridge when Wesley is functionally the Enterprise’s most competent, versatile member? 

Wesley routinely solves heady space mysteries saving the crew! He inadvertently evolved a sentient nanite species (“Evolution”) and is the only one to realize the truth about Lore in ths episode! The pop culture site Hero Collector credits Wesley as having “saved the day” THIRTEEN TIMES! As a pre-Academy ensign, a teenage boy with little formal training, Wesley has perhaps the greatest potential of anyone in Starfleet to make an incredible mark in his spacefaring vocation.

To the audience, this is annoying as it makes the senior officers look like fools and we naturally want to diminish his role in the show. But that the bridge officers routinely dismiss, demean, or fail to herald his achievements would be extremely petty. Consider this episode: in the end, Picard fails to thank, congratulate, or apologize to Wesley when he is SOLELY responsible for detecting Lore and remedying the situation. No wonder he decided to roam around with the Traveler…

UncreditedLT
4 years ago

This is a pretty good episode. Yeah, for season one, but I’d still put it on par, and a pretty good watch in its time. I have to agree, this episode does walk right into the usual S1 pitfalls: nobody recognizes when it’s hitting the fan, and “the boy” saves the day after the regular crew ham-fists their way into a crisis. Lore is basically given the run of things; I’m not sure if that should be the big disappointment, or if we should question more the fact that it happens. Again. And. Again. I’m not sure if it carries all the way through, but several seasons later, we still have random strangers being given access to virtually everything without question. Not sure if “welcome to the Enterprise, here’s helm control, and over there is tactical if you want to shoot off some phasers and photon torpedoes” is the standard welcome aboard brief, but it sure seems that way. Then the whole Westley element is on full display here. I mean moreso than usual. Why make him an acting ensign if you’re just going to ignore him? It’s like he earned his way, but when there’s an argument, he’s treated like the kid who got a chintzy set of wings on an airline. Some of the other issues aren’t such a big deal to me. I’m not sure how well codified the “no contractions” rule was, but given how shaky the first few episodes were, it doesn’t seem worth making a federal case out of.
Anyway, the good of this episode is mostly Spiner doing what he does best. Data’s evil twin is well-played; I just wish there could have been a little more exposition between the two. The how and why where Lore assumes the role of Data could have been done better too – surely there’s something better than a rufie for androids. But it is fun to watch Data be bad, and then to see the real Data in a pretty good action sequence. The whole evil twin story plays out pretty well, and there’s some good action. I think for the time, this one is a pretty good watch, definitely an eight if not more. The cliches of S1 bring it down, but between Spiner’s acting and setting the groundwork for Lore’s later role in the series, I’d give it a six overall.

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Yeebo
4 years ago

I totally enjoyed this episode.  Yeah, ok it’s bafflingly stupid to let Lore wander around unsupervised. 

“Hey, look, it’s a highly advanced robot in pieces and that someone went to great lengths to hide.  Let’s put it together, turn it on, and let it do whatever the hell it wants.” 

“Yes, yes.  I am sure that will go exceedingly well.”

Honestly, though, baffling stupidity is kind of par for the course this first season.  You just kind of have to go with it.  I mean in the last episode we found out that the holodeck is so poorly designed that it can straight up murder whoever is inside if a scan goes wrong.  Or if you turn it off abruptly in the middle of a program it will freaking disintegrate everyone inside.  And that it can apparently generate sentient self aware beings, which it then destroys on purpose when you shut a program down.  

So putting aside that a lot of stuff that happens doesn’t make sense, it’s a really fun episode.  Neat backstory on Data.  Really enjoyed the scenes where Data and Lore are talking.  One point of confusion, did they actually murder Lore at the end of the episode?  I mean he shows up later, so I guess not.  But it sure looks like they disintegrated him.

garreth
4 years ago

@32/Yeebo: No, Wesley simply beams Lore into space.  Nothing is disintegrated unless you’re referring to the phaser beam Lore shoots but which doesn’t escape the transporter pad in time.

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3 years ago

Another stupid episode, but I can’t dislike it. I just wish more was revealed about the Crystalline Entity; I loved its design and it must be the inspiration behind all the crystalline lifeforms in Stellaris

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Mr. Magic
3 years ago

@34,

I just wish more was revealed about the Crystalline Entity; I loved its design and it must be the inspiration behind all the crystalline lifeforms in Stellaris.

I recommend reading Christopher L. Bennett’s Titan novel Orion’s Hounds for further exploration of the Entities.

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3 years ago

Scattershot reactions to this one.

I’m going to pile on about the utter obtuse stupidity of the entire crew here, minus Wesley of course. 

I had forgotten where the shut-up Wesley GIF came from and this ruins it for me, because of all the times that I wanted Picard or someone else to tell that kid to shut his damn mouth, this is one time when he was absolutely in the right. And as someone else noted before, he’s an acting Ensign. He’s earned the right to be addressed with respect and nobody with assigned duties on the bridge of a ship should be told to “shut up”

Did I miss it, is it ever explained why Lore wants to feed humanity to the big Swarovski? How is this getting him off?

I’ve been making a big fuss on my own little rewatch here about how much I’m enjoying season 1 compared to most. Here’s where I get off the train for at least one stop. Ugh. 

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Kent
7 months ago

You’ll probably never read this, but “Big Swarovski” is hilarious. Well done.

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okdatapad
3 years ago

one thing i think helps with these early episodes is to imagine that the federation has had lasting piece and prosperity for decades or even centuries (cardassian wars to be introduced later notwithstanding) and everyone is very convinced that they’ve overcome all of humanity’s problems and have nothing to worry about, so their overconfidence leads to idiocy like lore being allowed to wander around the ship unguarded. it’s only after they have the shit kicked out of them a few times with stuf like the borg and wolf 359 that starfleet stars to come down off of their cloud and approach things more realistically. which was one of the reasons i was intrigued by picard the series showing that even in the federation things can go to shit, although that show was pretty inconsistent and kind of fell apart at the end

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Silly
3 years ago

I thought it was a pretty good episode — and for season 1, a GREAT episode.  

But this episode is the number one source of Wesley Hate because it built him up by making the entire bridge crew completely stupid.  Even the iconic “shut up Wesley” flowed from that.  

“The Naked Now” wasn’t quite as bad, because everybody was “drunk”, but it also made much of the crew look really bad, particularly Picard.  

Wesley being super bright wasn’t the problem, nor was him occasionally even saving the ship, it’s how they went about it.  

It’s interesting that the entire away team were so well aware of Asimov/positronics that they practically have it on the tip of their tongue   That’s actually subtle world building in that it suggests that it’s required study at Starfleet academy.

It is comical that Data/Lore look EXACTLY like Soong but nobody made the connection.  To be fair, though, this episode didn’t establish Soong’s appearance, so that later is really a mild retcon.  

Noonian Soong/ Khan Noonien Singh:

Actually, the reason Roddenberry kept using variants of that name is that he lost contact with that WW2 buddy and hoped that his friend would notice the name and make contact with him.   Apparently, it never happened.  

Arben
2 years ago

I haven’t read much tie-in fiction, but a friend gave me Immortal Coil and it was excellent.

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Brett Alan
2 years ago

Watching this episode now, the whole thing just makes very, very little sense.

We are to believe that Lore, living on this colony, makes contact with a previously unknown entity which travels the galaxy looking to consume organic matter. Somehow he’s convinced that if he leads the entity to the colonists, it will reward him. Umm….how? What does the entity have that he wants?

And I guess he gets shut down between contacting the entity and its arrival. And it consumes the colony…and leaves Lore in his shut down state. Now, OK, I can certainly buy that the entity has no way to revive Lore and/or doesn’t care. But, then, why is Lore convinced that feeding it more will end any better for him? Why isn’t he angry with the entity for abandoning him? And he thinks the PEOPLE are stupid? Not to mention that he’s very enthusiastic that it will be even more grateful when he feeds it an entire ship. The ship has about 1,000 people on it, and not all that much plant or animal life, so how small was that colony?

It would have made more sense if he simply knew of the entity and wanted it to kill the people on the Enterprise so he’d have the ship for his own.

That’s on top of the entity so easily giving up, and the fact @7 mentions that after so much is made of the fact that Data doesn’t use contractions, right after they beam Lore away Data says “I’m fine” and no one questions it. If we didn’t encounter Lore again later I’d be convinced that he’s actually Lore.

Anyway, if anyone can explain the whole Lore/entity relationship in a way that makes sense, please do….

ChristopherLBennett
2 years ago

@5/me: Back in my first comment, I remarked on how the split-screen shot of Lore filling a glass that Data then picked up in the same shot was cutting-edge split screen work for its day. I’ve just discovered I was dead wrong, because there’s an October 1954 episode of Rocky Jones, Space Ranger, predating “Datalore” by more than 33 years, that pulled off the same effect with two goblets in a storyline where Ann Robinson played both a friendly alien suzerain and her secret evil twin sister. It can be seen at about 16:10 here:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dTLltZfaz_M&feature=shares&t=970

The only difference is that the shot begins with the goblets already in place. It’s mindbogglingly well-done for a 1950s TV show — although even more mindboggling is the realization that the interval between Rocky Jones and “Datalore” is now less than the interval between “Datalore” and today.

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Edbermac
1 year ago

I’d give it a 4 just for the ‘Shut up Wesley’ scene. 

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Kent
7 months ago

I don’t understand how Data and the two Crushers got the drop on Lore in the cargo bay. Damn, I would have heard that door swish open and shut, and I’m not even an android with superhuman senses. And Lore giving the villain’s exposition is classically bad. Still, I found the first third of the episode to be pretty good. There was some excellent atmosphere with the assembly of Lore’s bits and pieces.