This is going to be a Jeremiad, not a hopeful essay. If you want the good news about fat protagonists in SFF, look at this lovely piece from Meg Elison. If you need education about fatphobia and the ways it harms fat people mentally and physically, try these episodes of Maintenance Phase on anti-fat bias, eating disorders, and the obesity epidemic.
If you are fat, stay if you need righteous anger, but please don’t make yourself read this if you need something soft right now. This essay is for thin SFF fans and creators.
You’ve been taught some things about fat people. Whether or not you believe them, whether or not you’re aware, you have been told by classic fictions and the silent osmosis of culture that they are lazy, gluttonous, messy, disgusting, out-of-shape, and cowardly. From the place where biased medicine and diet advertising meet, you’ve learned they are unhealthy, a burden on our healthcare system, and that they could lose the weight if they just made an effort, stuck to a diet, exercised more often. From modern fiction, you’ve seen them munch junk food like a reflex, puff and sweat at any exercise, and hate themselves until a little pitying affection lifts them up. All of these are obviously wrong, obviously harmful stereotypes, but even as you work to unlearn your biases, you know these things with the same thoughtless knowing that tells you the clever young man outsmarts the clumsy giant. This is the culture we have inherited. The ways in which these stereotypes inform basic social interactions, institutional design, and especially medical care, routinely devastate the mental and physical health of fat people, up to and including death from medical neglect.
It has been utterly exhausting to exist as a fat person on the internet these last few years. I mean, it always has been, but the number of people pretending to be on the side of good who immediately pivot to mocking Trump or Boris Johnson for their weight over any of their actual cartoonishly evil behaviors has been particularly offensive. I have seen again and again that people I respected have absorbed villainous fatphobic caricatures to the point they find aiming them at our public figures easier than engaging with the real harm those people do, or that they think calling someone fat is a real substitute for recognizing their veniality and corruption. Every time, I have to wonder who sees me in that same shorthand. That’s just the recent flavor of the steady drip of cruelty and trauma that fat people experience in every public space. It’s an example you might recognize of the kind of pain that becomes white noise for fat people without becoming less painful. Keep how often you’ve seen those digs in mind as we go on.
Books are no better about casual or extreme fatphobia than any other media, and I read much more than I watch, and hold books closer to my heart, so each slap stings that much worse when it’s in print. Print SFF reviews rarely call out fatphobia, and some who do, like Charles Payseur, work in short fiction rather than long, so I’m not likely to know it’s coming before I pick a book up for myself. I’ve also searched reviews after encountering fatphobia more than once, and not managed to turn up any mention of passages and characterizations that were quite blatantly fatphobic to me as a fat reader. I meet it in work for critique, when a fat character puffs going up the stairs, just a thoughtless little bit of characterization, easily mended, but it stings, and not everyone has a fat critique partner to catch and call out these moments. I want to believe it’s only that writers and editors without access to a fat perspective miss fatphobic passages, that they would change them if they recognized them, that we all agree that it is bigotry, that it is violence to treat fat people like that. I want to believe it enough that I’m stripping myself raw to reach everyone who reads this.
As a child, I got used to reading past fatphobia and not noticing the hurt. I got used to thinking of myself as ugly, as undesirable, as obviously lesser than my thin, visibly fit classmates. I left Harry Potter behind long before I was cognizant of being stung by its disgusting fat caricatures, but the damage remains. I was a little more aware by the time we all watched and read Game of Thrones, and historically literate enough to be offended by the nonsense of stigmatizing fat in a medieval setting. We have enough records and enough armor made for them to know fat knights weren’t somehow out-of-shape for battle. Even Tolkien, who I re-read for comfort, doesn’t shy from using fat as a pejorative synonym for lazy and soft, and Bombur is one reason I re-read The Lord of the Rings more often than The Hobbit.
In newer works, the vocabulary of fatphobia is different, but it’s still there all too often. Less likely to be sniveling fat villains or cowardly knights, more likely to be workouts, diets, the casual fear of getting fat. It’s the word “obese,” which you should expunge from your vocabulary unless you’re engaged in activism around how the medical system treats fat people, popping up next to the smell of diabetes, whatever that is, in M. John Harrison’s The Sunken Land Begins to Rise Again. It’s fat children being as unathletic as their bullies say they are. It’s Sarah Monette’s The Goblin Emperor’s taking time to mention the grace and balance of a fat character when it doesn’t bother to be concerned about those things in anyone else. It’s authors being very clear how worried they are about gaining weight when they post on social media about meals and workouts.
I don’t believe this change from intentionally pejorative caricature to unconscious fatphobia in more recent works means the SFF community is taking a stand against or even noticing the more egregious fatphobia when it comes up. A Master of Djinn, by P. Djeli Clark, is one of the most nominated and awarded fantasy novels of 2021. It’s been on countless lists and garnered many glowing reviews, and it opens on a fat man walking up some stairs in the heat, while the reader is invited to be disgusted by his laziness, his grossness, to disdain him as a fat man before they are invited to hate him as a colonizer. It’s obvious, needless, painful fatphobia, and I haven’t seen a single review of the book mention it. I haven’t seen it mentioned at all by anyone who isn’t fat.
I don’t cite these specific books for being particularly egregious though they, especially A Master of Djinn, did upset me personally. I cite them because they’re the ones I’ve read recently enough to remember the hurt in detail. Indeed, I would, and will come December, still recommend The Goblin Emperor wholeheartedly. I wasn’t kidding when I say this all blends to white noise. I don’t keep an inventory of all the places I met a little fatphobia and flinched at it and moved on. I remember the worst of my childhood reads, occasional clear flashes from the vast library of my teens, and what I’ve read in the last few months and discussed with fat friends and partners and colleagues. The hurt of most fatphobic moments remains as hypervigilance when a fat character appears, as tension waiting for the whip, not memory of every slight and injury.
The work of catching and preventing these fatphobic passages has to be on whole production teams and on the whole community. Critique partners should notice these sections. Editors should notice and mark them. Early readers should bring them up. Reviewers should note them in their reviews. We should all be having a conversation about how fat caricatures as villains serve to harm an already marginalized community, about how casual use of medicalizing language serves to other fat people, about how so much unremarked fatphobia makes SFF an unwelcoming community for fat creators and fat fans. For me at least, and maybe for someone else you know, there’s no amount of fat-positive books and fat main characters whose publishing will erase the pain of the community ignoring this kind of fatphobic stumble when it happens. I can adore Cora the mermaid in Seanan McGuire’s Wayward Children series, feel indescribably seen by Ish in Max Gladstone’s Last Exit, and thrilled to see Nine Hibiscus in Arkady Martine’s A Desolation Called Peace, but the joy of good fat characters is not an antidote to the harm of bad ones.
So much for print, where I honestly feel most readers aren’t even aware of much of what I pointed out. I expect a much higher proportion of SFF fans knows that film and TV treat fat people terribly. I certainly expect it more blatantly on film. The clearest signpost to the still-rampant fatphobia in SFF on film is the fat suit. They inevitably deliver an awkward, inauthentic performance that makes a fat character into an unnatural and monstrous thing, because a fat person is not a thin person inside a suit. It is always wrong to put an actor in a fat suit. It is always wrong for an actor to accept a role wearing one. And we sure have had a few years for the prominent, execrable use of fat suits, and the jokes and hate they encourage.
Of course, I don’t mean to suggest film and TV do notably better without fat suits. I watched Outer Range recently, and the only fat character, county surveyor Karl Cleaver, is a constantly-eating corrupt bureaucrat who dies because he looks away from the road to get more snacks. His being played by fat actor Kevin Chamberlin doesn’t make the hateful stereotype better. It means a fat actor got work instead of a thin one, and everyone still got to nod along with everything they know about fat people. I did not watch the television show based of Terry Pratchett’s City Watch books, but the thinning of an importantly fat character from the books, Sybil Ramkin, was offensive enough in stills and previews.
I expect you all remember fat Thor from Endgame, the endless parade of mocking slapstick and body-function jokes, and the contempt for someone supposedly ruined by grief and shame into a useless shadow of his former self. You know, because gaining weight makes you weak and cowardly and useless and disgusting. Did you laugh at those jokes? I know plenty of people in the theater I saw Endgame in did. And of course they did. Making Thor fat was meant to make him a punchline, to cut off the compassion due his trauma and grief and make him the butt of jokes instead, and it worked, because too many people still believe that cruelty and contempt are what fat people deserve.
Looking ahead in film, we’ve got Emma Thompson putting on the fat suit to play the villain in the new Matilda film, and early media coverage with precisely nothing to say about that choice, as if it’s not even worth wondering whether she needed be fat, or if she did, whether a fat actress would have been a better choice. Roald Dahl’s oeuvre is wall-to-wall body shaming, with special emphasis on the direct connection of fatness and ugliness with evil. For an adaptation of his work to make no attempt grapple with that poisonous legacy and simply give us one more thin actress putting on a suit to play the monster smacks of thoughtlessness, of unconcern with what it means to have a fat villain and how to do so without furthering the monsterization of fat bodies.
Our centerpiece for film, though, must of course be the recently Hugo Award-winning Dune. I will admit, I haven’t seen the new Dune. I’m never going to. I’ve stopped watching movies and shows that use fat suits, in large part because of how I’ve seen the figure of Baron Harkonnen used as a stick to beat fat people with. The Baron is truly one of the ur-examples of the monsterization of fatness in SFF. Who can forget that scheming, traitorous sadist, distended flesh billowing on his suspensors, strong enough to carry the double helping of disgust at the fat body and the utter evil of gay pederasty in one corpulent package?
Stellan Skarsgård is a brilliant actor. I have loved his work in many films. He could, without a doubt, have portrayed the evil and depravity of the Baron without a fat suit. Or, if Denis Villeneuve’s directorial vision required a fat Baron in keeping with tradition, he could have chosen a fat actor, and perhaps gotten a performance with the authenticity and power of Vincent D’Onofrio’s Kingpin. Dune was the overwhelming leader in nominations and votes for the long-form dramatic presentation Hugo. To me, that says quite clearly that, for many people in this community, the union of nostalgia and modern production quality is more than enough to outweigh a niggling concern about harmful fat stereotypes, if such a concern intrudes at all. It was and remains unspeakably demoralizing that I saw no thin people even raise concern about Skarsgård’s casting from its first announcement through the release of the film.
In my lifetime, SFF has become unimaginably more welcoming of my queer self than it was when I began to read. My fat self, not so much. This essay is a callout for everyone who feels they are a part of this community. Do better. Think twice before you consume or recommend a movie or show that uses fat suits and fat stereotypes. Notice where your favorites pivot to the monstrous fat villain, or shorthand a lazy, unfit coward with a swollen belly and a sweaty brow. Call out your friends and favorite authors when they do. Warn your fat friends before they blunder into stories that hate them. I want this to change. I want studios and directors to think twice before they plow ahead with a thin actor in a fat suit, because they understand that might lose them viewers, even if they don’t understand the moral reasons not to do it. I want to know about fatphobia in a new book, even just a scintilla in a whole doorstopper, before I decide whether to open it, and that will only happen if everyone starts paying attention, and if everyone is ready to acknowledge that it’s not okay to make fat people the object of your scorn or joke or pity.
R. K. Duncan is a fat queer polyamorous wizard and author of fantasy, horror, and occasional sci-fi. He writes from a few rooms of a venerable West Philadelphia row home, where he dreams of travel and the demise of capitalism. In the shocking absence of any cats, he lavishes spare attention on cast iron cookware and his long-suffering and supportive partner. Before settling on writing, he studied linguistics and philosophy at Haverford college. He attended Viable Paradise 23 in 2019. His occasional musings and links to other work can be found at his website.
Thanks for giving me (a reader, not a SFF creator) something worth thinking about more. One other thing that’s worth mentioning is that many non-Western cultures, as well as many pre-modern societies, have totally different ideas about beauty and body-shapes than we tend to get now in parts of the Anglophone west. It seems silly to imagine futures for our planet, let alone for life beyond the planet or on completely fictional fantasy worlds, that just reproduce the exact same body shapes, plugged into the same biased hierarchies of value…
In addition to being harmful or unkind, it is also unimaginative and short-sighted. That isn’t to say that other (futuristic) societies won’t have their own hierarchies of value or biases; just that it would be nice to see authors imagine them in new ways.
This! Pratchett wasn’t perfect when it came to fat characters; he did mock some of them (like Fred Colon), but he also celebrated them, and Sybil Ramkin is big, fat, strong and kind, and her husband loves her for her size, and Pratchett acknowledges the struggles Sybil has had growing up fat, making herself quiet and meek so people would accept her. AND THE TV SHOW MADE HER SKINNY! I will never, ever watch that trashfire of a show.
“the nonsense of stigmatizing fat in a medieval setting” is a great phrase and a good point. I am going to be more aware of this in future. (and now I am *definitely* not going to see the City Watch show).
My most recent attempt to read Dune left me physically ill at the passage introducing Baron Harkonnen, which made me even more heavily suspicious of its being haled as the classic it has become. Star Wars, too, suffers majorly from this problem with its own Baron Harkonnen in the form of Jabba the Hutt–an irredeemable entity of Evil (with a capital E) who is a literal giant SLUG. As a small-bodied SFF creator, I want my work to stray far from these awful, slapstick approaches to villainy.
Your piece has encouraged me to take things one step further, however, and address at the craft level the presentations of fatness within my current space opera universe–and, of course, future works!
A nice rant, well earned and needed.
As a fat person I had the same reaction to the opening of Master of Djinn. I knew he was going to be a villain, because a hero would not have been winded and tired. I didn’t react as strongly, as you say white noise and all that, but just found it annoying in the way I react when authors I like resort to tired and lazy trope and especially from an author who otherwise succeeds in upending stereotypes and tropes. You know they are capable of better.
Robin Hobb once tried to exam fatness in her Soldier’s Son trilogy. She showed the amount of resentment a fat person gets, especially from a family of fit soldiers. It’s not the hero’s fault he is fat, he is struck with magic. But then she turns fatness into some sort of spiritual bond with nature. I didn’t care for this trilogy enough to examine it too closely, to be honest, but I feel Hobb was trying to say SOMETHING.
Now, as a short person…., another rant for another day, I guess.
It hadn’t occurred to me before I read this how much fat suits resemble blackface (including denying a job to an actor who actually does belong to the same disadvantaged group as the character, and often in the service of perpetuating harmful stereotypes).
SFF also has the potential to make fat characters literally inhuman — the Hutt come to mind, for example. This doesn’t have to be hostile, but it often is, especially in Western works. (As one of the comments points out, some cultures have other ideas about what it means to be fat, including fat as a metaphor for prosperity and abundance which in the West is pretty much just limited to Santa Claus.)
I really appreciate the caustic anger in this article, as I also have often felt depressed and frustrated by some of the examples mentioned. I love Diana Wynne Jones’ works, but she does get a bit ugly at times as regards fat-shaming. They should have cast someone like Octavia Spencer as Sybil Ramkin-Vimes – only the budget probably couldn’t have managed such an A-list actress.
I find some of Lois McMaster Bujold’s works more helpful as regards fat-positivity. (Miles is not fat-positive but gets called out for it, and Miles has his own issues.) Mark and Laisa in the Vorkosigan Saga, and Nikys in the Penric series all combine to suggest that attractiveness comes in bigger sizes as well as smaller ones.
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I have so many thoughts regarding Mark in the Vorkosigan Saga. As a fat person myself, I was initially really put off by the way Bujold wrote his fatness in Mirror Dance, but over the course of the book I came to realize that all of that is influenced by the POV character – primarily Mark himself, who starts out so very self-loathing. About halfway through there is a conversation between Aral and Cordelia, where in response to Aral commenting on Mark’s weight and health she tells him that Mark embarrasses him, remarking on the body-consciousness of the Barrayarans. Cordelia takes Mark’s side throughout the book, but this small moment, pointing out that Aral’s (and Miles’, Elli Quinn’s, Elena’s, the reader’s, etc.) views about Mark’s body are culturally informed, means so much to me. It’s not about his health, it’s never about any of our health, it’s about how everyone constantly makes assumptions about our bodies. Mark ends the book confident and happy in his fat body – much more so, in fact, than Miles is in his thin body. We see the “learning to accept yourself for who you are” narrative so often, but so rarely does it apply to fatness.
Excellent and necessary essay, thank you! I can only hope that some reviewers here on Tor.com and elsewhere will read this and begin to comment on instances of “slender supremacy” in the books they review. Also, skinnywashing in the casting of movies or the depiction of characters on covers.
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I love that scene! As you explore, Bujold underlines the culturally-formed nature of our ideas around fatness and doesn’t throw her punches. I really enjoy Mark’s arc, especially the moment when he weaponizes his body weight against Ryoval. I also appreciate the fact that in A Civil Campaign, he is depicted as being a figure who both feels sexual attraction and is sexually attractive – all in a healthy, happy relationship (Mark and Kareen have issues but they are largely external to their relationship). That feels revolutionary.
I do find it easier to accept myself after spending some time in Bujold’s worlds. It’s sad that her willingness to see multiple body types with grace and love is lacking so often.
I agree with the problems of using fatness as a shorthand for villainy. It’s annoying. But I dunno, as someone who has struggled with her weight due to depression, I found Thor’s weight gain in Endgame to be very relatable. And I found the fact that he didn’t have to lose that weight before rejoining the team or playing a key part in the big battle with Thanos was kind of inspiring. And I loved how it didn’t bother him, and how the jokes Tony made didn’t bother him. I was going through a difficult time that summer and it helped me get through it. Still helps me keep going sometimes.
And yet in For Every Jack, the weight of each character is relevant.
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Haven’t read the Vorkosigan saga yet, but the constant and revoltingly cruel descriptions of dy Cabon in Paladin of Souls almost made me put down the books several times when I first read it a few years ago. Would’ve been upsetting enough if she had just done an initial description of him that way but it’s brought up SO many times over the course of the story. Was shocked to see no addressing of it when I went to Goodreads or found other reviews.
I am glad to hear things are more well examined in that series, as I really enjoy her works overall and hope to get to more of them soon.
Thank you so much for this. I was just wondering about some related stuff last night (specifically whether it would be better for me to be less accepting of actors in fat-suits and whether that is [roughly!] analogous to letting only cis people play trans people). I absolutely despise how society treats fat people (I’ve seen many of the things outlined in this article leveled at family members, friends, and colleagues of mine), but I have a lot of privilege in this respect and always appreciate anyone in the in-group taking the time to help educate the out-group.
Without disputing any of the views put forward in the article, the portrayal of Baron Harkonnen in the recent “Dune” film was an aspect I particularly like – and a major point of differentiation from the 1984 David Lynch film. The newer Baron was nothing like the near spherical 1984 version, instead being just more of a large, solidly built bloke; I wasn’t even aware he was in a fat suit. Thinking back (and without checking) the character’s sexual habits also seemed downplayed somewhat, making him less of an offensive cliche (just my personal impression- others may believe otherwise). The Baron was still a very nasty piece of work, but in a dark, brooding manner (I thought he was clearly modelled on Marlon Brandi’s Colonel Kurtz in “Apocalypse Now”), rather than as a ludicrously large, madly cackling, over the top pantomime villain.
Recently read The 7 1/2 deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle for a mystery club and the narrator showed more disgust in being the body of a fat person (he seriously could not shut up about it) than he did about being in the body of a rapist. Using fatness as a gross out tactic is disgusting and I instinctively flinch whenever I read it, and I’m not even fat.
We need to flood the market with good fat characters and condemnations of fatphobia, it’s the only way to clean out all this manure.
@@.-@ The thing about the Baron is that he is obese, to the point he needs a framework to carry the excess weight. And this is a choice on his part. He is deliberately gluttonous as a demonstration of his lust for power. He says so right in the text. He is deliberately transgressive in other areas (in ways that are problematic over half a century later) as well.
OTOH you have Feyd-Rautha who is lean, straight, and at least as evil as the Baron
@12: I, too, found refuge in Thor’s depression weight gain (also my heart breaks for his alcoholism, poor Thor–and Valkyrie too) and his being able to be a part of the team while still in his depressive state. It’s more than I expected. And it meant-means-a lot to me.
Also, a shout out for Guillermo in What We Do in the Shadows for being a heavy set butt-kicking fantastic and loveable character, whose weight is never shown as being something that holds him back.
Dune 2022 had Harkonnen, but Villaneuve also cast Stephen McKinley Henderson as a fat black Thufir Hawat.
Thank you so much for writing this! This is so very needed, and you did it very well.
Let’s not forget those Doctor Who villains, the Slitheen. They were only introduced in 2005!
Robin Hobb’s Soldier Son series initially seems like it’s a fat phobic book series, but at the end fat is good
As an obese person myself I find this article to be damaging. I don’t find it invites others to be compassionate towards us, but to browbeat them with our opinion.
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Great read, thanks for this article. It’s a video game, not a novel, but Final Fantasy XIV: Shadowbringers is another fantasy story that associates fatness with laziness and greed. It was super disappointing to me. There is one well written and kind fat character, Dulia Chai, but the only other onscreen fat character is a monstrous being of sloth and greed whose fatness is explicitly tied to his evilness. But honestly, what did I expect from a game that lets you increase your bust size, but not your weight?
In Seanan MCGuire’s books there are fat characters who are well written, except for the idea that they can only feel lithe and free when in the water. Also, every time an author expresses surprise that a fat person isn’t automatically a lumbering shamble, “they were so light on their feet for a fat person!”
and fat people don’t need to be treated with extra compassion, we need to be treated as regular people, not specially marked out by our body size. Being pitied by society is exactly what leads to cruelty.
@30, “he moved with a speed that belied his tremendous bulk,” is a staple shtick in a lot of pulp thrillers and mysteries.
It annoys me no end that Amanda Waller — heavy and formidable as shit in the Suicide Squad comics — has never been as heavy on screen.
Oof – I’ve been screaming into the void about this for a while now, though mostly about books. I used to love Jodi Taylor’s books – The Chronicles of St Mary’s and Nothing Girl especially – until I read the first Time Police novel. A side character, Mr. Plimpton, is introduced with is family, and they are just awful people. Mr. Plimpton, you see, is fat. His wife, son, and daughter are all also fat. The family is also grotesque and repulsive. This, Ms. Taylor makes clear to the reader, is largely because they are fat. Their behavior is awful, but a lot of that really is because THEY ARE SO FAT. It wasn’t from a character’s point of view, either – it was the omniscient narrator emphasizing all the white jiggling flesh and so on. It poisoned the book so badly I don’t think I’ll ever want to read a Taylor book again, and that’s a shame.
I made a comment about the chapter in a Facebook fan group for the author, and was a little astonished when 95% of the responses were along the lines of “I’m fat, and it didn’t bother ME” (along with “they’re awful characters, how else should she have described them?” and “why are you butthurt about how fictional characters are described?”). The fact that I’m fat is … honestly, it’s beside the point. I could weigh in at seventy-three pounds, and I would have still found the descriptions of these characters over the top.
I just checked – it was seven years ago that I was driven to write a blog post I called “Writing with surprising grace, despite my bulk…”, inspired by some of my favorite authors describing a character as taking some action with a grace or deftness or softness surprising in one of their girth/heft/bulk/weight. I had a few books going at the same time, and every single one of them made this kind of commentary. All of them. The one kind of funny thing about it was that the person I knew with the heaviest stride (“You walk like an elephant!”) was a little athletic wisp of a thing. Me? I could almost make two of her, and you’re never gonna hear me coming. And the loudest footsteps I’ve ever heard have been from toddlers. So …. Dare I say it? Size doesn’t matter.
For … fun? I went to Google Books and typed “surprisingly graceful for bulk” into the search window. There are “about 5,170 results”. Even if it’s not an objectionable commentary in and of itself, it’s an objectionable cliché, and even if someone aims to not be “PC”, as such should be avoided.
Thank you for this!
Thank you for this! The fatphobia in Harry Potter in particular is so, so damaging because kids really absorb it. I work with kids who are super into the series, and I hear them parroting back those negative messages. I don’t even think it occurs to them to connect the dots that “fat=bad” might not sit well with me, their fat teacher. I try to push back with things like, “We don’t like Vernon and Dudley because they’re mean and treat Harry badly, not because they’re fat,” or “Hagrid is fat too, and he’s really great! It’s okay for people to be different sizes.” But I don’t know that it gets through.
I am in tears reading this. I have felt and thought these things for years, but although I am deeply steeped in fatlib spaces (I view myself as a fat activist), SFF has always seemed so closed off to fatlib, when it’s been so open to doing better for nearly all other marginalised groups. I recently reread Discworld, and Pratchett was SO good on so many other things, but terribly fatphobic. Every time Agnes Nitt was on the page, ugh. I have developed quite a thick skin on these things, but that actually really got to me. Because the Pratchett-glint in the eye was fully missing.
I’m so tired of media, and SFF especially, making life harder for fat people by continuing to play into these wrong and harmful stereotypes. It’s shown SO clearly in research that weight stigma is much more harmful to health than a higher weight is. And yet fat Thor, the Baron, the Hutts, and all the small drips of diet culture is still so gleefully pushed at us. Amazing authors like Brandon Sanderson has queer, trans, disabled characters of all skin colours… And still uses fat as shorthand for evil and/or lazy and gluttonous. Every SINGLE tv-show or movie I watch has some type of fatphobic or diet culture stings. I love love love the Grishaverse, and was very disappointed to see the actor they cast as Nina isn’t fat, she’s barely in the upper ranges of straight size. My favourite Nina quote is “But she hadn’t been made for shame”, but apparantly the showrunners found her body size shameful. This isn’t any shade to the actor; she is amazing.
Also, I’ve been trying to get the AI art thingies to create fat elves for me, but AI’s are biased too, and they all end up looking sad and miserable. Whereas if I remove the word “fat” or “plus size” the facial expressions are wildly different.
Fat activism and fat liberation are my main passions, and it hurts me so much to find it completly lacking SFF, which has always been my happy place. So to find this article, here on Tor, it means the world to me. Seriously, I cannot express dear writer how much this has impacted me. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
My issue with Cora was that in Beneath the Sugar Sky, fat and bitter was her entire personality. The writing around her also leaned way too hard on “a FAT MERMAID!? Are you not shocked? She’s FAT and a MERMAID, doesn’t that blow your mind!!!”. She gets much better treatment in Come Tumbling Down and Where the Drowned Girls Go which let her be a character instead of a statement.
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It’s worth noting and remembering that FFXIV is Japanese in origin and much of Japanese culture is even crueler towards fatness than Western culture. It’s honestly pretty amazing we got Dulia Chai as a semi-positive example (she’s so naive as to be foolish, which makes her more mixed as an example in my opinion).
Well said. Thank you!
For anyone who is interested in cultivating a wider awareness and aesthetic concerning body image issues, I suggest checking out the long-running Body Impolitic blog by Laurie Toby Edison and Debbie Notkin, and their photo-and-essay books of nudes (one also co-written with Rich Dutcher). They have been working on this issue, including in the SFF community, since 1984. Any positive changes the community has made are likely to have been partly due to their efforts.
How about “Fat Monica” on Friends? Hated it then, hate it even more now. And that was played for laughs – not okay.
Jaime Pressly in a “fat suit” on Mom (I love that show but I absolutely hate what they did with that character – she goes to a spa for a few months and loses the weight by no longer eating junk food).
I’m sure there are more – I just tend to tune out and turn off when I see it.
SFF has a long way to go with this issue. Surprisingly enough, it is romance that is leading the way with a plethora of fat heroines and the occasional fat hero making an appearance. Of course the cover artists don’t always get the notice (or choose to ignore it) that they need to plump out their heroines and heroes. Mystery isn’t that far behind, although for them it is usually books from the 1930s through 1960s which had positive fat representation.
I was disgusted by Marvel Studios making Thor’s descent into depression, grief, and lack of self-care into a joke. No one in the audience was laughing and they got an earful from fans, not that they heard us. Fat suits ARE exactly the same as black-and-yellow face.
While I’m glad to see this blog post, I’ll be more interested in what TOR does about it. Y’all are falling behind, get your butts in gear!
Favourite fat characters:
Falstaff is a much-loved character , also a comic villain. But who would change him?
Winnie the Pooh .And another A A Milne bear who finds a portrait of King Louis “nicknamed the Handsome………..& certainly the man was fat”
Enid Blyton’s “Mystery of” series, Fatty is the boy detective.
Wilbur in Charlotte’s Web.
Soldier’s Son already mentioned. There must be a better word than fatphobic.
This article hit me really hard. I have TWICE been told that my brand new trouble breathing was because I need to lose weight (spoiler, the sudden onset of trouble breath was pneumonia in both cases not my weight). This weird fatphobia that some doctors have really needs to go and this is exactly where it comes from.
Great article! Gave me lots to think about. …Such as how awful fat suits are. I’d never considered that before.
I agree that fatphobia is an issue that gets ignored or dismissed all too frequently. It’s not taken seriously enough. I hope we wise up soon and realize the damage it’s doing to people. The damage it’s doing to ALL sizes of people.
Not only are fat characters dehumanized and made monstrous, but also the few fat characters that are good guys or protagonists tend to get skinny-washed. Whether that’s on screen, or on on artwork and book covers. The Girl of Fire and Thorns has a fat main character, but the only cover I’ve seen that has any people on it displays a skinny girl.
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In relation to “surprisingly graceful for bulk,” I wonder if people who follow professional sports see this description as less objectionable. There are pro athletes for whom deftness and coordination at a massive size (not just height) is their competitive advantage – for example, shaquille o’neal, zion williamson, NFL linemen, sumo wrestlers. It’s not a cliche in those spheres of competition. And then that phrase becomes less objectionable even when applied to non-athletes.
@43: I would add Po from Kung Fu Panda.
“I’m not a big fat panda. I’m THE big fat panda.”
He’s mocked for being overweight and not looking like how the Dragon Warrior should, but he proves there is no secret ingredient in the noodle soup. it’s what inside him that counts. and throwing his weight around is an active part of his skillset.
How about the Amazing Bubbles from Wild Cards. Beautiful and fat most of the time -as it fuels her powers – and proud of it.
The discussion around body types is a difficult one. I think that a large part of the disdain comes from two different things: the “science” behind racism and eugenics, and the “protestant work ethic,” particularly in America.
The Body Mass Index, BMI, is a metric that was based off of the height and weight of what was considered average at the time: White, European, and male. That leaves out a huge swathe of humanity. Also, it doesn’t take into account what has been learned about biology and nutrition, particularly in the last two decades.
The religious issue is tied in to things like the Proverbs and the Seven Deadly Sins (sloth and gluttony can be particularly tagged as negative terms). If one isn’t physically active, they’re sinful. I think there’s strong cause to reexamine what Christianity considers “sin” through the lens of mental health, but that is another topic for a different group.
Personally speaking, I’ve never been someone who was of “average” weight. I was a large, clumsy child who was bullied for it. I grew up to be an obese man. At my highest, I weighed 400 pounds. I wasn’t taught proper nutrition growing up, and started to overeat specifically for the feelings of satiation and satisfaction. I was able to eat an entire pizza one-handed while driving a stick-shift.
Some commenters have mentioned the issue in The Master of Djinn around the character out of breath going up stairs; that was me. It didn’t strike me as an attack, it was verisimilitude to my story. The pain of Thor’s self-perceived unworthiness in Endgame hit a very tender nerve for me, too, particularly because it was how I saw myself for nearly three decades.
My behaviors were undeniably linked to mental health issues and a lack of self-acceptance. When other people tried to approach me about my health, it felt like a personal attack. It took a long time to recognize I was using food in a self destructive way.
Eventually, I went to therapy to address some of my issues. It wasn’t easy, but I eventually decided to have a gastric bypass to help with other obesity-related issues. Now, four years later, I’m still overweight by BMI standards. But I am at the place where my body should be. I’m also closer to Mark Vorkosigan’s self-acceptance, which is a better place to be.
To a point, I understand where this article is coming from. The sheer pain of being othered and belittled for the shape of one’s body is something none should experience. I can also understand the catharsis of unleashing a jeremiad. But I think this issue is something that will take years, if not decades, of conversation and education to truly change common perspective.
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Several years ago I picked up a series of urban fantasy books to read because they were recommended by an author I adore. I made it through 2 and 1/2 books before I gave up in disgust. The author was using the same phrase – something along the lines of “carrying extra pounds” for different characters to portray them as “less than”. It was offputting in the first book, annoying in the second, and in the third – when she used it twice for different characters – it was very clear that she was showing some serious personal bias in her writing. I’m still angry.
Even worse was the fact that the author who had recommended the books is someone I had admired deeply for writing about themes of healing and acceptance. For them to have missed such an obvious and hateful bias really shook me. I can only hope they didn’t notice because they hadn’t read the books back to back as I did.
Fatphobia, like all prejudices, tends to reduce a varied group of people to a monolith – hence all the panting and sweating and the ‘surprising’ gracefulness. (I would argue that we see surprising gracefulness at all sizes, but only with bigger folks do we contribute the surprise to their size. Simone Biles, for example, is often called astonishing, surprising, incredible – but we’ll say she is so because of skill, practice, dedication, and natural gifts.)
As authors, we may not get it all right all the time – but we are certainly enjoined to think about these things and make choices that mitigate harm. Like all stereotypes, our disdain towards fat people is made up of many parts. We need to examine our assumptions at every opportunity and teach ourselves to see problems on the page. The author is correct, at a minimum, we need to demand an end to fatsuits, and publish reviews that are thoughtful on this issue.
Thank you for a great article and for giving me so much to think about.
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My current favorite chunky character is Linus Baker from The House in the Cerulean Sea