“The Paradise Syndrome”
Written by Margaret Armen
Directed by Jud Taylor
Season 3, Episode 3
Production episode 60043-58
Original air date: October 4, 1968
Stardate: 4842.6
Captain’s log. Kirk, Spock, and McCoy beam down to a verdant planet that has a lot of the same plant life as Earth, even though the size, shape, and age of the planet makes it very unlikely that it would evolve in any way parallel to Earth.
They encounter an obelisk, one that resists Spock’s tricorder scan, and one at odds with the lack of technological sophistication seen in the natives, who live in rudimentary structures. Looking more closely, Spock sees that they are a mix of Navajo, Mohegan, and Delaware tribes from Earth.
However, they have a job to do. They’re at this planet because an asteroid is on a collision course with the world, and the Enterprise must deflect it before it destroys the world and its population.
Kirk wants to check out the obelisk one last time, and winds up falling through a trapdoor into the inside of it and then get zapped by some kind of beam. When he wakes up, he’s lost his memory—he doesn’t recognize his communicator or phaser, and leaves them behind.
Spock and McCoy search for as long as they can—Spock’s log also mentions search parties, though we see none of them, as that would require paying for more actors—and then beam back to the Enterprise in order to deflect the asteroid. McCoy doesn’t want to leave, and Spock explains why they have to leave when they do. At no point does anyone mention the possibility of keeping the search parties on the planet to look for Kirk while the Enterprise deflects the asteroid.
Kirk leaves the obelisk just as two women come with offerings for their gods. When Kirk emerges from it, they assume he is their god. One of the women, Miramanee, brings him to the tribal elder, Goro, and the medicine chief, Salish. There is a dark time coming, and prophecy speaks of a god who will come from the sky and save them. Salish is skeptical that Kirk is that god, and asks for proof.
Fate intervenes, then: Miramanee brings a boy who drowned to Salish. The medicine chief can’t save the boy, and Kirk may not remember who he is, but he does remember CPR. He saves the boy. Goro instructs Mirmanee to give Kirk Salish’s funky headband, as he is now the medicine chief. Based on the closeup of Salish’s angry stare right at the camera, he’s a mite peeved at this turn of events. I wonder if that will factor into the plot later…
The Enterprise has gone at full speed to the asteroid (to Scotty’s chagrin), and the ship’s deflectors are used to divert the asteroid—but it’s not enough. So Spock decides to pace the asteroid and use phasers to split the asteroid in twain.
As if Salish wasn’t ticked off enough, Miramanee informs Salish that she can no longer marry him, as the priestess must marry the medicine chief, and Kirk is that now. When Salish asks her point blank if she’d choose him if she actually had a choice in the matter, she doesn’t answer, and it’s unclear if she’s conflicted or trying not to hurt Salish’s feelings.
The medicine chief is generally informed of the secret of the temple, but Salish’s father never told him before he died—probably because he thought his son was a dick. Miramanee also tells Kirk of the Wise Ones, who sound like the ones who brought the people here from Earth.
Chekov finds the weakest spot on the asteroid, and Sulu fires phasers until the engines burn out. Scotty is pretty much driven to tears at how badly his engines are being tasked. The asteroid is still on course for the planet, so Spock has Chekov set a course back there at maximum impulse. It will take two months to get there without warp drive, and Spock intends to spend those sixty days studying the obelisk.
Miramanee and Kirk set their joining day. However, Salish jumps Kirk, not quite ready to give up Miramanee yet. But Kirk wins the day anyhow, because he’s just that awesome, even though Salish is emboldened by the fact that he is able to cut Kirk and make him bleed.
Spock has been working himself to exhaustion for eight weeks. McCoy diagnoses him with such and orders him to bed, also assuring him that he did the right thing and he shouldn’t let guilt drive him to destroy himself. However, Spock gets up from bed as soon as McCoy leaves and goes back to work.
Kirk is happier than he’s ever been, though he does occasionally have dreams of sailing through the sky. Miramanee also announces that she bears his child. We also get really cheesy voiceovers of Kirk waxing rhapsodic about how much he loves Miramanee, often accompanied by absurd gestures and doofy facial expressions.
But Kirk doesn’t just rest on his laurels. He proposes a canal that will result in an increased harvest, and comes up with preservation methods that will allow them to store reserves in case of famine or bad weather.
The weather gets bad, and Miramanee thinks it is the first sign of the dark times, and Kirk must go into the temple and save them all. But he has no idea what he’s supposed to do to rouse the temple spirit.
Kirk heads to the obelisk, imploring Goro to take care of Miramanee. Salish follows and watches with amusement as Kirk pounds, frustrated, on the obelisk, not knowing what to do. Salish returns to the village and convinces the people that Kirk is a false god. They run to the obelisk and start to stone him.
However, Spock has determined that the symbols on the obelisk are musical notes that form an alphabet. With the help of his Vulcan lyre, he has translated it. The obelisk was placed there by an ancient race known as the Preservers, who took about-to-be-extinct races and seeded them on other worlds.
Spock and McCoy beam down just as Kirk and Miramanee are being stoned. The people run away at the sight of the landing party. McCoy has Chapel beam down with a surgical kit. Spock uses a mind-meld to restore Kirk’s memory. Leaving McCoy and Chapel to care for Miramanee, Kirk and Spock are able to open the obelisk. Spock dopes out the controls, activates the deflector, and the planet is saved.
Unfortunately, McCoy is unable to save Miramanee or her unborn child. Miramanee’s last words are an expression of faith in her god husband, that she knew he would save them. Kirk doesn’t correct her (Spock did all the work, after all).
She dies in his arms.
Can’t we just reverse the polarity? Spock’s notion of splitting the asteroid in two is a spectacularly stupid one, as the only difference that will make is that two smaller asteroids will hit the planet instead of one big one. The damage would be the same, possibly worse. Having said that, I’m glad that the script at least understands interplanetary distances, that it would take two months for an asteroid to reach the planet after the point of no return for deflection.
Fascinating. Spock manages to decipher the obelisk all by himself, despite also being in charge of the ship. Because this ship with 400+ people on it whose mission statement is to seek out new life and new civilizations apparently doesn’t have a linguist on board.
I’m a doctor not an escalator. McCoy gets to do his usual thing of being stupid and irrational in order to let Spock explain things when he acts like a moron at the beginning with regard to the need to deflect the asteroid. But later, his speech to Spock about how he should rest and not feel guilty for making the same command decision that Kirk (or anyone) would have made in the same place is an excellent one, for all the good it does him.
Ahead warp one, aye. Sulu informs Spock when it’s 65 minutes until the asteroid will strike the planet. Spock doesn’t sound particularly happy about being reminded.
It’s a Russian invention. With Spock in charge of the ship, Chekov gets to play science officer.
Hailing frequencies open. Nichelle Nichols isn’t in this episode, but footage from “And the Children Shall Lead” is used for an Uhura reaction shot when they’re firing on the asteroid.
I cannot change the laws of physics! Scotty pretty much spends the entire episode complaining. I also believe this is the first time he refers to his engines as his “bairns” as he laments their overuse.
No sex, please, we’re Starfleet. While Kirk and Miramanee’s marriage is arranged and traditional, they nonetheless fall head over heels for each other, and also conceive a child.
Channel open. “Miramanee!”
Uttered by Kirk about sixty million times over the course of the episode.
Welcome aboard. Sabrina Scharf does the best she can as Miramanee, as do Richard Hale, Naomi Pollack, Peter Virgo Jr., and Lamont Laird as assorted Natives. Rudy Solari is simply dreadful as Salish. Recurring regulars George Takei, James Doohan, Walter Koenig, and Majel Barrett are all present and accounted for as well.
Trivial matters: The Preservers are first mentioned in this episode, another attempt to explain the proliferation of humanoids in the galaxy like Sargon’s people in “Return to Tomorrow,” as well as TNG‘s “The Chase.” The Preservers come up a lot in the tie-in fiction and games, including both FASA’s and Decipher’s role-playing games and Star Trek Online, as well as the comic book Star Trek Year Four: The Enterprise Experiment by D.C. Fontana, Derek Chester, & Gordon Purcell, the novel Preserver by William Shatner and Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens, and the Starfleet Corps of Engineers novella Small World by David Mack.
This is the first of five episodes directed by former Directors Guild president Jud Taylor, which will make him the most prolific director of the season.
The story takes place over two months, making it the episode that has the longest single time span in the original series.
Just as the unsubtly stupid name of Sargon’s planet Arret was never spoken aloud to everyone’s relief in “Return to Tomorrow,” the unsubtly stupid name of this planet, “Amerind” (yes, really) was also never spoken aloud.
Among the many ways they saved money in the third season was to all but abandon location shooting. This is one of only two episodes this year that has any scenes outdoors (the other being a single street scene in “All Our Yesterdays”). The exteriors were filmed in Franklin Canyon Park, a popular location for filming. The lake seen in several shots is the same lake used for the opening credits of The Andy Griffith Show.
To boldly go. “Behold, a god who bleeds!” I’d been dreading rewatching this episode for a number of reasons: 1) the Preservers are stupid, 2) the portrayal of Native culture is awful, and 3) it has some of William Shatner’s worst acting, aided and abetted by a doofy-ass voiceover. I didn’t expect the episode to have any surprises, but it had two major ones—a good one and a bad one.
The good one is that the episode totally convinced me that Kirk and Miramanee were in love. William Shatner and Sabrina Scharf have superb chemistry, completely selling me on this romance. And this despite the aforementioned doofy-ass voiceovers…
The bad one is that lost in all the hugger-mugger of racist stereotyping and bad acting (not just Shatner’s doofy-ass voiceovers and screaming “I AM KIROK!!!!” but also the embarrassingly bad performance of Rudy Solari, who keeps looking at indeterminate spots over the shoulder of the person he’s talking to and who is a two-bag actor—he needs the second bag in case he accidentally acts his way out of the first) is the fact that the script is actually dumber than a box of hammers.
For starters, why do Groucho, Chico, and Harpo take the time out to beam down to the planet when there’s only a half hour before the deflection point? What possible purpose does beaming down serve? Wouldn’t it make more sense to deflect the asteroid (for which you have a limited window) and then check out the natives? Also why does Spock waste time with a lengthy explanation of why they have to leave right now instead of, y’know, leaving right now?
When the Enterprise has to break orbit to deflect the asteroid, why do Spock and McCoy and the off-camera search parties have to all beam back? There are 400+ people on the ship, including an entire security detail who probably aren’t needed to deflect the asteroid. Why not leave them behind to find the captain?
Why does Spock have to translate the obelisk all by himself? Why can’t super-fancy 23rd century medical technology save Miramanee from having rocks thrown at her? (Because she has to die while pregnant so that Kirk isn’t seen to be abandoning his wife and child.)
And that’s not even getting into the racist hogwash. Kirk is amnesiac, but he can still perform CPR, come up with a canal network, create lamps out of pottery, and leap tall buildings in a single bound. Meanwhile, the locals are so stupid that Miramanee is stumped when confronted with the notion of taking off Kirk’s shirt, and they go from zero to stone-the heretic as soon as a storm hits and Kirk can’t get into the obelisk. The setup of the Preservers saving a race from extinction is one that could shine a light on genocide, but instead we just get the standard white-folks-are-smart-Indians-are-savages horseshit.
Warp factor rating: 1
Next week: “The Enterprise Incident”
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This. This is the worst Star Trek episode.
So this is the first time Scotty says “bairns,” and last week we had the first time McCoy said “out of your Vulcan mind”? This rewatch never ceases to amaze me – two of Trek’s most time-honored cliches, we owe to season three!
I agree, this is A Very Bad Episode for all of the reasons you elaborate, including the Chariot of the Gods-esque introduction of the Preservers into what is ostensibly a science fiction program (a concept somewhat redeemed by TNG’s “The Chase” decades later). But I have to admit: as a Trekkie preacher, I have used “the god who bleeds” line from the pulpit at least once, to talk about what makes the Christian conception of God different from other conceptions. So, cheesy line, bad acting, racist episode – but that moment, yeah, I kinda like it for theological reasons.
And how weird that Uhura is present here only as stock footage. I had no idea.
Another great write-up!
Bill: I can’t agree. Not in a world in which “Plato’s Stepchildren” and “The Omega Glory” exist.
—Keith R.A. DeCandido
Say what you what about Star Trek: Enterprise, at least they had a linguist. Plus Hoshi is hot.
Having recently rewatched the entire series, I have to wonder:
Did I miss this one, or did I forget it?
Every time I watch this episode I’m surprised how bad it is. It always gets better in my memory. I think that’s because I like the first scene (except for the fact that they shouldn’t be there in the first place) and the last one (except for “Each kiss is as the first”), and I tend to remember those the best.
The first scene: I like it that the episode refers back to Kirk’s wish for a simple life that was introduced in The Naked Time; I think this isn’t taken up again until Generations. I also like it that he actually gets to live this life for a while. The little settlement at the lake looks really inviting. Starfleet protecting unsuspecting planetary populations from asteroids is a good idea. The writing on the obelisk is cool – a bit like cuneiform, but not quite.
The last scene: I think Shatner really sells Kirk’s grief. People in films often get loud and shouty when something terrible happens, and that’s not how I know it from real life at all. This is perfect (and almost makes up for the terrible over-the-top I’m-so-happy-scenes during the course of the episode).
I also like the scene between Spock and McCoy you mentioned. McCoy does much better here than in The Tholian Web. Scotty, on the other hand, comes across as a caricature.
I love the name “Miramanee”. It’s both beautiful and unusual. So many of the made-up names in TOS sound the same – Kelinda, Natira, Losira, Odona,…
What I dislike, apart from the racism, the voiceover and the bad dialogue, is that everything feels so generic. Generic Hollywood Indians, jealous antagonist, and Miramanee doesn’t really have a personality either, except for being in love with Kirk. I like the stuff about the lamp and the irrigation because it shows how he cannot sit still, even in his personal paradise, but they should have been counterbalanced by one or two scenes where he screws up – fishing, maybe? Building a boat? Performing a ritual – isn’t he supposed to be the shaman? How can people not notice that there are large areas he knows nothing about? This could have been a much better episode if it had actually bothered with the daily lives of those people.
Talking about dumb, you didn’t even mention that it’s the words “Kirk to Enterprise” that accidentally open the trapdoor. That always makes my head hurt.
I always quite liked this episode, largely because of Gerald Fried’s utterly beautiful, poignant music (which I’m listening to as I write this), my favorite of all his Trek scores — and, alas, his only score for the season and his final Star Trek contribution. And because of the great chemistry between Kirk and Miramanee, and the drama and emotion of the situation. And because Sabrina Scharf was pretty hot. But over the years, I’ve come to realize how problematical it is, with the racial stereotyping and the white-savior cliches and the redface casting and all — among other things.
Here’s the thing with the Preservers: Everyone insists on calling them an “ancient race,” and I’ve seen books assuming they existed billions of years ago or were the same group as the First Humanoids from TNG’s “The Chase,” but that makes no damn sense. Think about it. They transplanted a population of Native Americans because they were in danger of extinction. When did Native North Americans first face that danger? In the 17th century, when Europeans began colonizing North America and their diseases raced through indigenous trade routes, wiping out 90-95% of the continent’s population before the white settlers ever got there (which is what led those settlers to believe they were expanding into land that had never been civilized or heavily populated). So the one known instance we have of Preserver activity is no more than 3-400 years in our past. By definition, that makes the Preservers a modern entity, not an ancient one. They’re more recent than Shakespeare, contemporary with Isaac Newton. So there’s no reason to imagine they’re some long-lost superrace from the depths of prehistory. They’re probably still around today, and probably still around in the 23rd century as well. (I’ve often thought they might be the same as the Vians from “The Empath,” who have the same MO.)
For that matter, why assume they’re even a “race?” Since when was an entire species devoted exclusively to a single activity? If anything, the Preservers are probably more an organization like Greenpeace or the Peace Corps. They could have members from multiple species.
Not to mention that they’re hardly “super.” Their only technologies include starships (implicitly, to transport the Amerinds), asteroid deflectors, and some device that wipes memories when incorrectly used. None of that is beyond the capability of the 24th-century Federation. On top of which, they’re apparently pretty damn incompetent. I mean, they tried to “preserve” an endangered population by knowingly sticking them on a planet that was regularly bombarded by asteroids, and they put only one deflector beam on the planet and put the code in the hands of only one person. That’s a staggeringly terrible plan.
The only reason everyone imagines the Preservers as some all-powerful, godlike, super-ancient race is that there are so few actual facts established about them that people are free to fill the void with whatever they can imagine, and without limits on their imagination, people tend to default to extremes. Any race from the unspecified past must be from the incredibly distant past (even though we can actually date their activity to within a century or two). Any race with any technology beyond the Enterprise‘s must be a superrace indistinguishable from divinity. And so forth.
Of course, the Enterprise‘s asteroid deflection efforts don’t make much sense either. I mean, it’s not that hard to deflect an asteroid from hitting a planet. It takes Earth, for instance, only 7 minutes to traverse its own diameter as it moves along its orbit. If an asteroid were about to hit Earth, you’d only need to speed or slow its arrival by 8 minutes’ worth and it would miss the planet. This is routinely overlooked by TV and movie writers who forget that planets move rather than standing still. Also, the farther away an asteroid is, the smaller the angle you’d have to divert it by in order to make it miss the planet. With two months’ worth of time to work on it, it would’ve been monumentally easy to prevent the asteroid from hitting the planet. All they had to do was have a shuttlecraft push sideways on it for a few weeks.
(Okay, done listening to the music. The “Death of Miramanee” cue is so beautiful and poignant. There’s this fantastic cello sting at the moment Miramanee dies that gives me chills every time — it’s at 2:30 on the cue “The Right Button/Death of Miramanee/End” on the soundtrack album. The newly-performed suite arrangement of the “Paradise Syndrome” score on the Label X album in the ’80s left out that cello sting, which always frustrated me, though the suite was otherwise great to have. I’m so glad the original recordings were finally released on CD.)
@7 That actually makes for a FAR better story, a organization almost entirely opposite to the Prime Directive, setting out instead to use ‘modern’ technology in that future era to preserve endangered cultures (consider the later issue that Worf’s brother brings up in moving ‘his’ people in TNG via holodeck technology). The Preservers in that sense wouldn’t be an enemy in the conventional sense to the Federation, but certainly could be a philosophical threat because of what they considered to be of existential value in the universe (in terms of life and extant culture versus information and jurisdictional provenance) – the eventual conflict between the two would make for a great Star Trek story… ;)
I watched this one last night and almost wished I hadn’t. This is a soft 1 at very best. Spock’s plan to break up the asteroid (to be seen again as Yonada in “For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky”) has the virtue of being merely stupid rather than offensive. You’ve got it all here: Kirk as white savior to noble savages portrayed as childlike and naïve, actors in redface, the death of the native woman and unborn child (a common trope in fiction concerning white/non-white miscegenation), and latent tendencies toward violence from the natives of Amerind. It gets even better too. The original title of the script? “Paleface.” And, as Jana (@6) mentioned, just why is it that an English sentence opens the trapdoor of the obelisk with symbols that are at first completely unintelligible? But hey, “HE WAS KIROK!!!”
Is it not amazing that we got “The Inner Light” from basically the same starting point as this mess?
Teaser trailer for the new Star Trek series of anyone is interested.
http://www.startrek.com/article/watch-teaser-trailer-for-new-star-trek-series
@9/DoubleRedAlert: The idea was that the Preservers used a tonal/musical language, and that it was the specific tonal sequence of Kirk’s hail that matched the entry code. So not the words so much as the pitch and timing of the syllables.
JanaJansen perfectly summed up my impressions from this episode. I too tend to forget how bad it is because it’s framed by two very good scenes. And also it’s another 3rd season episode that had the potential to be good.
I like the whole Tahiti syndrome subplot. It’s the way of life Kirk refused when he went for Starfleet career, he probably won’t even want this life in paradise given the choice but it’s the thing he dreams of and cannot have. The love story and Miramanee’s death is the only believable part of the story but it is enough for me to rate it a bit higher than 1.
Come to think of it, Kirk falls in love two times during TOS+movies, and both women die soon after, and his unborn child and his son die as well. It’s almost as if life hates him.
As for Preservers in my headcanon they are not Greenpeace but more like zookeepers. They save endangered cultures but keep them in the same state as they found them. That’s how I explained to myself why those people don’t even know how to preserve food and never developed irrigation or other things and why the obelisk has a memory wipe button.
But on the whole this episode is really bad. The plot is weak, to make it work Spock suddenly loses all his logic and messes up time after time, McCoy is required to be stupid and Scotty acts like crazy. Dialogues are horrible, and acting even more so, especially the mind meld scene is so embarassing it’s unwatchable. Which is a pity because it could have been good but turned out as an epic fail instead.
@/JanaJansen I figured it’s part of the phrase, something like “rktoenterp” that serves as a key, otherwise it really is dumb
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Yeah, but they basically stopped using her as a linguist by the end of the 1st season.
Whew. I slog through this one because “The Enterprise Incident” awaits afterward as a reward for enduring this episode. But I agree the music is very moving, a nice final contribution by Gerald Fried. And William Shatner and Sabrina Scharf do sell the romance. Too bad the episode is almost otherwise unwatchable.
Does this just make me an idiot, cause I’ve seen this episode many times, and the concept of the racism has never occurred to me? I suppose it might be the autism keeping me from seeing it, but I never thought of this as racist, just the crew finding a group of Indians, interestingly enough transferred to another planet, but still, just people living a much simpler life, one that many people in the fantastically advanced world seem to hope for, at least from time to time.
@14, I actually just finished the first session the other day and am 3 episodes into season 2. Enterprise is the last series until I have seen every episode of Trek. So far, I like it better than Voyager. My expectations where so low it had no where to go but up. ?
DanteHopkins: Oh, you’re going to be really unhappy at next week’s rewatch, then……
—Keith R.A. DeCandido, who is not very fond of the next episode, either
OK, if you’ve got symbols which represent musical notes which represent an alphabet, someone tell me why the musical piece of this is at all necessary to decoding the symbols/alphabet. Because, um, you have to identify the harmonies to know how to group the symbols into syntactical units? I don’t see why the issue of how a symbol is sounded out (whether as spoken sound or as sung/played tone or as spoken sound intoned a certain way) should make any difference to decoding an alphabet.
The “Planet of Hats” comic on this episode hits almost all the notes (heh-heh) of Keith’s review.
Has anyone suggested that the Preservers might be the (time-travel capable) Federation from a couple of centuries in the future? If not, I’m suggesting it. That would, among other things, explain why they think of “Native Americans” as a single group and why the NON-extinction of that group of people (5.4 million currently living in the US, 1.4 million in Canada, and . . . um . . . 25 million in Mexico) is apparently a bigger deal for them than preserving, say, the Harappans or the Ainu or the Neanderthals or the Etruscans.
@13/Darr: “Come to think of it, Kirk falls in love two times during TOS+movies, and both women die soon after, and his unborn child and his son die as well. It’s almost as if life hates him.”
It’s pretty much par for the course for ’60s/’70s action lead characters. They couldn’t have ongoing relationships, since the stories were always episodic, so anyone they fell seriously in love with would inevitably either die or turn out to be evil.
“They save endangered cultures but keep them in the same state as they found them. That’s how I explained to myself why those people don’t even know how to preserve food and never developed irrigation or other things and why the obelisk has a memory wipe button.”
Again, though, it’s a myth that the Native Americans were ignorant primitives. There was a rich civilization in the Americas for centuries, in many ways comparable with anything in Europe at the time, just with different specializations (e.g. weaker at metallurgy and transportation, much stronger at agriculture and building with organic materials). The idea that Native Americans — the people who domesticated or bred into existence maybe 2/3 of the world’s staple crops today — would need a white guy’s help to understand something as basic as food preservation or irrigation is probably the most ignorant and racially condescending assumption in the entire episode.
Then again, the idea is that the Preservers saved endangered populations. Maybe the ancestors of Miramanee’s people were the stragglers and refugees left after European diseases had ravaged 90-plus percent of the population — people who’d been forced to retreat from their developed communities and trade routes in order to avoid the plagues and go back to living in the wilderness. They might’ve lost a lot of their communities’ knowledge by the time they were found and transplanted. If the Preservers assumed that was their “natural” state, they would’ve been guilty of making the same inept anthropological assumptions as generations of European observers.
@20/Cambias: For all we know, other starships like the Potemkin or the Hood might’ve stumbled across the alien planets settled by transplanted Ainu or Harappans. I always figured there must be other Preserver planets we didn’t see. The conceit of this episode was that the Preservers explained the various Earth-duplicate cultures seen before in the series, but most of the others had explanations (e.g. the space gangsters and space Nazis) or couldn’t be explained as the result of seeding (e.g. the Omegans, who supposedly had Americans and Communist Chinese thousands of years in the past). The only other one that could work as a Preserver world is the Roman planet from “Bread and Circuses,” though their speaking 20th-century American English is hard to explain that way. But the Enterprise is just one ship — it can’t visit every planet. There could be other seeded populations out there.
And what about aliens? Why would the Preservers only protect human populations? As I said, I think the Vians from “The Empath” could be the Preservers. And maybe some of the alien races we’ve seen that are oddly similar to other alien races could be the descendants of Preserver-seeded populations. For instance, the Talarians from TNG: “Suddenly Human” could be a Klingon offshoot.
Saavik: I try to avoid reading other reviews until after I write mine, so I didn’t realize how much my complaints tracked with that of Planet of Hats until after I wrote it. (The note from last week about how PoH likened “Elaan of Troyius” to Casablanca was one I edited in after I first uploaded the rewatch and read the strip, because I thought it was worth mentioning.)
—Keith R.A. DeCandido
@/ChristopherLBennett yes, I meant it along the lines of your last paragraph, thank you for putting it into words. I thouht that the Preservers may have found them at their worst time and assumed that it is the norm, and also “recreated” lost parts of their culture as they thought it should have been. Maybe being moved even to similar environment but on another planet somehow affected them… Say those ships Preservers used were not capable of fast travel and it took about 50-60 years to move them, enough for older people to die and for those born on a starship to not have skills nesessary for agriculture etc. Or just half of the population did not survive the transfer for some reason and some knowledge was lost. And then Preservers did everything to make them stay as they are because they assumed it was their most natural state.
Or maybe Preservers thought that any “civilisation” is bad and being naive and close to nature is the only way people should live and so chose people who they assumed fit their criteria and then deliberately used memory wipe button to eradicate “corruption” and return them to their “natural” way of living. Creepy scenario, but sort of works as an explanation of episode’s premise.
At least in the 23rd century Starfleet does not think the Prime Directive bars them from rescuing low tech civilizations from catastrophic planetary disasters.
Spock was acting captain for two months while Kirk was MIA, and nothing happened besides the Enterprise failing at its mission.
Agreed the most memorable non-eyerolling thing is the episode making you believe Kirk is in love and happy there. Though looking at this as an adult realizing that the required tropes at the time demanded that Miramanee die by the end of the episode.
What is bad about not leaving some search parties on the planet is that, despite asteroid being two months out, by Starfleet’s spaceflight tech, the Enterprise is right next to the planet the entire time, they could be sending shuttles to relieve any search parties. It might not be as stealthy as the transporter they are not required to be out of reach of the surface the entire time.
@23/Darr: Again, I don’t believe the beam was supposed to wipe memories if used correctly. Spock specifically said “You must have activated it out of sequence.” The Blish version rephrases it slightly and calls it an “information beam” instead of a “memory beam.” Like, the machine was meant to beam knowledge into people’s heads — like the Great Teacher in “Spock’s Brain,” maybe — but since Kirk activated the memory-writing beam without programming in any memories to write first, it just beamed a blank signal into his brain and thus left his memory blank.
@13/Darr: “I figured it’s part of the phrase” – Good idea!
@21/Christopher: But surely the Romans weren’t an endangered population?
As for Miramanee’s people staying the way they are and never inventing anything much, change is slower in small, secluded communities with no outside contact. I didn’t find it all that unlikely that Kirk was able to come up with some new inventions for them, only that they didn’t teach him anything in return.
Now I want to see the Neanderthal planet.
@26/Jana: The Roman population, no, but maybe their way of life, if the Preservers anticipated the eventual fall of the Western Empire.
And my point is that the primitive level of Miramanee’s people would not have been the baseline for Native Americans in their heyday on Earth. It would have to be a degeneration from that, rather than the preservation of their pristine nature as the episode wanted us to think.
As for Neanderthals, if I’m right, then the Preservers are a group of relatively recent vintage. It’s unlikely that any organization or subculture could persist unchanged in a single activity for hundreds of thousands of years, so I doubt there would’ve been Preservers around that long ago. Even projecting their activities back 2000 years to Ancient Rome is a stretch. Although it’s possible that there have been different “space Greenpeace” groups transplanting cultures at various different times, and historians just lump them all under the Preserver label, presuming more continuity than there was.
You’re too generous. I’d have given it a zero.
I just didn’t buy the “Cool! American Indians in space” story. And all Trek romance minus Kira-Odo sucked @ss.
@27/Christopher: You’re right about the Neanderthals, I know.
And I got your point about Miramanee’s people. I didn’t intend to contradict you, on the contrary – poor starting conditions and no other people around to exchange ideas with make it more plausible that they hadn’t already invented everything Kirk could teach them.
First and foremost. Someone at the Trek offices really liked using the word syndrome. Two episodes with the same word in their titles so close to one another. That can’t be coincidental.
For all its faults, I actually enjoyed this one quite a bit.
This reminds me of a situation I faced while watching Star Trek into Darkness for the first time. The way I see it, if a film has a truly great ending, it can wash away some of the film’s previous missteps in my mind. Into Darkness almost had it. Despite a few plot holes and setbacks, I feel the film had redeemed itself with Kirk’s sacrifice and assured death, raising the stakes in a way Trek hadn’t done before….
….and then took it all back with the most inconvenient Deus Ex-Machina possible, souring a lot of my goodwill.
The difference between that film and this episode is that I feel this one was saved by its ending, with actual consequences. I’d be the first one to say TNG’s Who Watches the Watchers is the superior Prime Directive captain-as-a-god episode, but I like Paradise’s ending a lot better.
This has one of the best TOS scores ever written, by Gerald Fried. That goes without saying.
I never felt the Preservers had anything to do with the First Humanoids from The Chase. I’d like to think the galaxy is big enough that there are more than enough life forms and entities with goals that are distinct enough that you wouldn’t assume they were related in any way. This isn’t Babylon 5, where all races are linked to the First Ones, the Vorlons and the Shadows through conflict, manipulation and mythology.
Despite a lot of plot missteps, I feel most of the episode is salvaged by the Kirk/Miramanee romance. There was a lot of chemistry between them. I particularly admired Shatner’s restraint at the end. It’s not as iconic as the ending in City on the Edge of Forever, but in a lot of ways this works for me as a blend of TNG’s Watchers and Inner Light, powered by a tragic ending. Kirk wasn’t himself for most of it, but I feel some part of him welcomed this change of pace, this new chance at a more stable life.
To somewhat quote Larry Nemecek, this episode provided him with something Starfleet never could: a family and a home.
It’s not perfect, but it’s an episode I’m still willing to revisit in the future. Definitely over the likes of Omega Glory and Elaan of Troyius.
Lastly, the gorgeous location shooting. It gave the episode a lot of visual power, and a different identity to other season 3 entries. In a way, it makes me appreciate season 3’s reduced budget, since it allows me to appreciate something I’d otherwise take for granted.
Forgot to mention the stoning part. That’s an act of violence I find to be truly brutal, abhorrent and unsettling. I still shudder over rewatching season 1 of The Leftovers because of that scene. Despite the contrivance that led to it in Paradise Syndrome, I can’t help but feel anyone perceived as an entity could have easily suffered the same fate, and it doesn’t take away from the power of the scene. Miramanee’s death hit me hard especially because of this event. I never expected 1960’s TV to be as bold as to depict stoning.
@30/Eduardo: “Syndrome” has long been a popular word in story titles. There was the ’70s movie The China Syndrome. Space: 1999 had a “The Immunity Syndrome” just 7 years after Trek did. M*A*S*H had “The Billfold Syndrome,” MacGyver had “The Prometheus Syndrome,” T.J. Hooker had “The Survival Syndrome,” practically every medical TV series ever has had at least one “Syndrome” episode title, etc. Every single episode of the animated 1997 Men in Black: The Series was titled “The ____ Syndrome” (in the same vein as The Man from U.N.C.L.E. titles all being “The ____ Affair”).
And, wow, I didn’t feel that Kirk’s sacrifice in STID helped the movie, since it was such a ripoff of The Wrath of Khan. The overall story of Kirk learning humility to become a better captain was good (I gave him a similar arc in my cancelled Abramsverse novel written after the first film), but that hardly needed to end with Kirk’s death — on the contrary, that TWOK rehash was just a distraction from the real story. (After all, TWOK was about Kirk facing mortality as he aged, and this was about the still-young Kirk learning to become a responsible adult.)
Good for you for not mistaking the Preservers with the “Chase” humanoids, but countless people have — even including Trek producers, though mercifully it never got into an aired episode. The problem is that they’re both attempts to explain humanoid aliens, so people equate them even though absolutely everything else about them is different. (Plus there’s a tendency to assume that everything in the past happened at the same time, which is why we have Fred Flintstone keeping a pet dinosaur and Xena hanging around with both Helen of Troy and Julius Caesar. People don’t stop to realize that Navajo and Mohegans weren’t around 4 billion years ago.)
My wife and I spent this entire episode going “Oh my god, this is racist.”
Not that I haven’t seen it before, not that it wasn’t racist before, I am just so astonished by the racism EVERY TIME that I sit there astonished. The redface! The wigs! Augh! If there’s ever been a plot to “The Paradise Syndrome,” I’ve missed it, because I’m completely astonished by the incredible racism. She cannot even figure out his shirt!!
De Kelley clearly didn’t even want to be around for the filming of this…
Ooooo this one is bad. Really bad. But, it’s not the worst. That one is still to come – Plato’s Stepchildren.
@33/MeredithP: Well, to be fair, Starfleet uniform shirts were supposed to use some advanced, futuristic fastening technology. In the first season, they were actually sewn onto the actors; a shoulder seam was left open so the actors could put them on, then invisibly sewn shut. Starting in season 2, they put a hidden zipper in the shoulder seam. So the implicit idea was that the shirt fastened by some means that even 20th-century people would be confused by.
(TNG and DS9 did the same thing, implying some kind of futuristic fastening. The uniform tunics had a zipper in the back, but there were scenes — like in “Ensign Ro” where the title character gives her tunic to a refugee girl — where they were shown to open in front along some invisible seam.)
I knew the TNG era uniforms had a back zipper, and very obviously so, but I never knew that about the TOS ones. I always assumed they just pulled them on over their head like a t-shirt. THe shoulder seam thing just makes it weird.
Christopher: Yeah, but in “The Naked Time,” Spock pulled the shirt over his head to put it on after McCoy examined him.
—Keith R.A. DeCandido
This is a little off-topic, regarding the breaking up of a colliding asteroid: You see this a lot, in movies and TV, and in discussions about real-life NEO defense. Usually someone makes the analogy to guns (“all you’ve done by nuking it is to change it from a shotgun slug to a shotgun spray”). This makes sense, but seems incomplete to me – a huge, planet-killing asteroid isn’t much worse than two half the size. But surely, if you broke up an asteroid enough it could make some difference, right? I mean, a huge, planet-killing asteroid WOULD actually be much worse than 1,000 asteroids that were collectively the same mass. Much, much more of the asteroids’ mass would burn up in the atmosphere before collision/explosion, right? Like how an ice cube melts in water much more slowly than the same mass of ice in slush form? Or is there something I’m missing…?
@32/Christopher: Regarding Into Darkness, I don’t see Kirk’s story as one of humility and learning to be a better captain. At least to me, the movie carried across this idea that the Abramsverse Kirk had always felt out of place in the universe. I find the 2009 film supports this idea through the scene where Uhura’s academy buddies pick a fight with Kirk, and pretty much every other pre-academy Kirk scene. In short, it’s the concept of the outsider which serves as the catalyst for his feelings as captain in the second film.
When Kirk chooses the sacrifice route, it’s not merely in service of being responsible. Rather, it’s the only way the character can feel remotely useful. He openly recognizes that he’s unfit to be a captain, and that Spock should be the one in charge. Ironically, he’d already chosen a responsible course of action earlier in the film, when he ordered “Harrison” captured instead of killed. It didn’t mitigate his feelings of inadequacy. I don’t know if that would change over time, given his youth, but I find this particular Kirk is a product of that feeling, especially given he’d grown up without his parents.
Shatner’s Kirk rarely, if ever, felt incapable of fulfilling the role. He’s had regrets, but never uncertainty over his actions.
Is killing Kirk a Wrath of Khan rehash? Probably (and doing the radiation screen staging certainly doesn’t help). But I feel there’s enough of a difference in Kirk’s motivations that it sells the moment of his death. Ultimately, for all the plot holes, the scene conveys the necessary catharsis.
I always like this one until I watch it, then I find it kind of boring except for the Preserver element.
Which @7 touched on them not being as ancient as everyone seems to think, even Shatnerverse Trek brings up the idea of them not being ancient and possibly being around at that time. That if a Preserver wanted to hide in plain sight they’d choose a race that’s immune to telepathy, like the Ferengi. IN fact near the end of Preserver the Ferengi with them all but confirms that then disappears in front of them. So take that as you will.
But this episode wasn’t terrible, the Indians in it were just your typical Hollywood doesn’t understand other races or cultures schtick you see throughout Star Trek (looking at Jeri Taylor!)
@34. Oh no, there is one episode worse than Plato’s Stepchildren, And the Children Shall Lead. That episode is beyond terrible.
@41
***koff koff*** Turnabout Intruder ***koff***
@42
Don’t forget the nonsensical Wink of an Eye or the faux-countercultural Way to Eden. I’m of the opinion that we all have our ‘favorite’ third season kick to the crotch and that none of us are really wrong.
@37/krad: Was Spock pulling his shirt on done in one continuous shot, though, or was it the sort of thing where they cut away to conceal the more complicated switch between the “off” costume and the “on” costume in different takes (like those bits in Daredevil season 2 where the integrated cowl of DD’s costume magically turned into a flat collar when he took his helmet off)?
@38/Jacob: Yes, there is something you’re missing, which is energy. Even if the mass of the asteroid were broken up into pieces, even if a lot of them burned up in the atmosphere, they would still collectively have a vast amount of kinetic energy that would be converted to heat upon their deceleration/disintegration. And all that heat pumped into the atmosphere at once would still be quite devastating to the planet. Not to mention that there’d be a gazillion tons of asteroid dust in the atmosphere that would probably cause a nuclear winter-type event just as much as if the intact asteroid had hit.
The only case I’ve seen in film where breaking up the impactor really made sense as a solution was Age of Ultron, because the impactor was stationary in the atmosphere when it broke up, so air resistance would’ve prevented the small pieces from gaining much kinetic energy in the first place.
@39/Eduardo: On the contrary, Shatner’s Kirk questioned and doubted himself constantly (see “Balance of Terror,” “The Immunity Syndrome,” etc.). That’s what made him a good captain — that lack of arrogance, that ability to question and error-check himself and heed advice from others. And yes, Pine’s Kirk did learn that over the course of STID. He started out assuming he could do no wrong on Nibiru, but then Pike’s death forced him to realize that he could lose, and then he started to question himself when he decided to listen to Spock’s cautions rather than following Marcus’s orders to kill Khan (a nice reprise of the Kirk-Spock dynamic from “Arena” and “The Devil in the Dark”), and eventually he reached the point where he could admit that he didn’t know what to do and needed help. And that was the moment when he finally became fit to lead. An unfit leader is one who assumes oneself infallible. It’s only when you’re smart enough to say “I don’t know” that you’re able to learn and grow and improve.
@44, Stop that! You’re retroactively making STID a slightly better movie! ;)
Forgive my ignorance, but wouldn’t the dust burn up be *slightly* better in that at least there’d be no ginormous impact and resultant crater? I know, it is like choosing whether it is better to get savaged by a grizzly or a polar bear, but there is a minor difference. You’ve still got to deal with the dust-winter but at least you are spared the earthquakes, tsunamis, and volcanoes all letting go? Right?
@44 Yes, I had considered that, but a large asteroid would release almost all of its energy in the form of an explosion. The same amount of mass broken up into many pieces would shed more of its energy on entry, before the explosion, presumably leading to a smaller explosion. Obviously it would still be devastating for all sorts of reasons (such as the dust), but my point was simply that all other things being equal, a bunch of smaller pieces would seem to be less devastating than one big one. If we were facing a planet killer and didn’t have enough time to do anything better, I would think that launching earth’s entire nuclear arsenal would be better than nothing.
To use an extreme example, what if the asteroid was broken up into one thousand trillion pieces, so it was effectively a dust cloud? Assume it would still have the same velocity and mass, and thus the same energy, but the “impact” would be so dispersed that we would basically just have the dust to deal with.
@46 & 47: Again, remember all that heat being dumped into the atmosphere at once. Yes, the dust particles would “shed” their kinetic energy, but that energy wouldn’t disappear — rather, it would be converted into thermal energy and transferred to the air itself. And that much dust being decelerated by the atmosphere would dump a huge amount of heat into the atmosphere. Having the whole planet’s atmosphere superheated would not be fun at all. At worst, much of the atmosphere might be blown into space. The influx of energy might be intense enough to break down atmospheric gases into toxic nitrogen oxides that would devastate the ozone layer. There could be global fires, people outdoors being burned to death by the very air, oceans and lakes evaporating into killer steam clouds, a lot of stuff not recommended for one’s health.
The thing most laypeople fail to keep in mind is that mass is just a way of storing energy compactly. That energy remains no matter how much the mass changes form. And it’s the energy that does the damage. The intact asteroid would deliver that energy in kinetic form in one big blow, but the same mass coming in as a cloud of debris would still deliver an essentially equal amount of energy in a different way, and that rapid influx of energy into the atmosphere and the planet would be devastating one way or the other.
Another thing to keep in mind is that, at high enough impact energies, the energy of the atomic bonds that hold molecules together in a solid is so trivial in comparison that the distinction between a solid impactor and a cloud of particles is functionally irrelevant. If something hits something else fast enough, it’s going to vaporize instantly anyway, and it’s the collective kinetic energy of the vapor that’s going to impart the destructive energy. So whether or not it was solid before impact has no bearing on the damage it does.
Just to set up my biases, I think TOS is the best of all the Star Treks. Any of us can see the campy, racist and goofy overtones *now*. But in the mid to late ’60s, this came up when there were only cowboy and cop shows on TV and they had 22-25 minutes to tell a story. They had to lay it on so audiences of the time could get it. Racism is a harsh criticism for a show that offered a Black woman as a spaceship officer, and a “Chinese” guy who wasn’t a waiter.
Besides, who doesn’t smile when they hear “No more bla bla bla.”, or “Herbert, Herbert!”
The Mythbusters fell into a similar line of thinking when they “debunked” the “myth” that a frozen chicken would do more damage to an aircraft windshield than a thawed one. They reasoned that since the mass and velocity of the chickens were the same, they should do the same amount of damage to the windshield (same energy imparted from the projectile). They were so sure that they actually screwed up their experiment and had to revisit it and do it right. Obviously, a frozen projectile does more damage than a thawed one (would you rather be shot by an ice cannonball or a water one?) – they forgot about “splashiness”.
It just seems like the same amount of mass, spread out, would not explode with the same force. Also, the same amount of heat added to the atmosphere will do more damage if concentrated in one place, rather than spread out over half a continent. Now, I don’t work at NASA or anything, but 1000s of hours of Kerbal Space Program has taught me that things don’t impact at angles perpendicular to the ground. They generally impact on suborbital trajectories, ie going sideways super fast. So a more spread-out object might indeed “smear” more against the atmosphere, right?
TL;DR Even if it was delivering the same amount of energy, it seems like there is a big difference between releasing it in 1 second and delivering it in 5 seconds.
It’s been a while since I saw this episode. I remember quite liking it. But poor Miramanee is basically a Mary Sue, showing that they exist in canon as well as fan fiction. And if Kirk loves a woman she might as well be wearing a red shirt, she will be dead by the end if the episode. At least Spock’s lovers survive! Unhappy, but alive.
kcisobderf: Part of the point of a rewatch, at least to me — and I’m the one writing it, so my opinion matters *grin* — is to look back at the show with modern eyes. And I’m sorry, but it’s, to my mind, horrifically irresponsible to dismiss any form of prejudice, whether it’s racism or sexism.
—Keith R.A. DeCandido
@51 I think it depends on what’s going to cause the damage. If it’s the impact, tsunamis, and terrestrial material ejected into the atmosphere, then vaporizing the asteroid might help. The amount of energy to turn Toronto into a smoking hole in the ground is negligible on a global scale. If it’s the firestorm that’s going cause the mass extinction, then dispersal isn’t going to help much. Though I suppose it could still help, since some of the mass will have a sufficient different trajectory to miss the planet.
Did TOS have tractor beams and just forgot about them? Or were they invented for TNG? Even without them, though, the idea that a civilization with artificial gravity has trouble with asteroid is fairly ridiculous.
The Preservers obviously grabbed a few European-types (Roanoke?), wiped their memories, and added them to the American Indian colony for genetic diversification purposes.
It’s worth mentioning that, in the 1930s, only 10% of rural homes in the US had electricity. By 1939, it was still only 25%. That means there were a lot of people, when this episode aired, who remembered when a light bulb was first turned on in their home. They were aware of the change artificial light had brought in a way we aren’t. So, I can see why the show would have Kirk introduce artificial light.
Overall, thought, I would have liked if the things Kirk did had made sense, given Kirk’s background. I would expect Starfleet officers to learn CPR, so that’s no problem. But, Kirk’s from Iowa. Irrigation to water crops isn’t as big a thing there as it is in certain, drought-prone states like California. As for food preservation, while it’s possible what Kirk taught them were different ways of preserving food, I don’t see Kirk as knowing how to can fruit (which would also involve other technological innovations, like glassmaking and metallurgy).
Actually, McCoy would have been a much more likely to make a good shaman, assuming he could make good use of his medical skills without the technology he’s used to (I’m going to assume Earth-based plants have been spread through the galaxy enough by humans and preservers and what-not that it makes sense to train Starfleet doctors who take the extra stranded-on-a-primitive-planet-and-need-to-make-an-x-ray-machine-with-coconuts classe [i.e, the “Gilligan” program] how to do that).
#55 Some good thoughts here. Dr McCoy as a shaman – nice! I can see it. I think he’d learn local herbs from the women and make good use of them. But this is a Kirk “beach to walk on” story. And he has to do SOMETHING while he’s there, though I would imagine the tribe would be well and truly capable of making their own light and growing their own crops their own way. Who was it who taught the Pilgrims? And here in Australia the indigenous people couldn’t understand why the Europeans were starving in a country overflowing with food! There is definitely something patronising about what Kirk does.
@50/Jacob H: That doesn’t work as an analogy, because it’s a much more low-energy collision, so the difference in molecular bonding energies between a frozen chicken and a thawed chicken is significant in proportion to the energies involved in the collision. If you were shooting that chicken into the windshield at, say, 500 MPH, then it probably wouldn’t make any difference whether it was frozen or thawed.
You can’t assume things scale up simply between a low-speed collision and a high-speed one. You can see that in regular experience — if your car hits a wall at 1 MPH, it won’t do much damage, but if it hits the wall at just 30 MPH, it could wreck your car. And as we saw in the Mythbusters episode where they used a rocket sled to slam a wall into a car at several hundred MPH, the car literally disintegrated. In the high-speed replay, you could see that it basically just turned to powder on impact. That’s what I was saying about the molecular bonding energies being too low to matter at those energy levels. They were so proportionally tiny that, from a physical standpoint, the car effectively functioned as a cloud of independent particles rather than a solid object. At a low speed, the car just bounces, at a moderate speed it crumples, at a really high speed it just splashes. That’s how different the physics of a high-speed collision are from the physics of a low-speed collision, so you just can’t treat them as equivalent.
And as for comment #51, the only reason the asteroid “explodes” is because the energy of impact causes it and the atmosphere around it to heat, expand, disperse, and change state. Indeed, most of the force of the explosion would be the result of the atmosphere itself being superheated and compressed. If you set off a nuclear bomb in vacuum, it won’t do anywhere near as much damage or create nearly as big a fireball as if it’s in atmosphere. One thing that Trek constantly gets wrong is assuming that explosions in space have shock waves. Of course they don’t, because a shock wave is a property of the medium in which the explosion happens. In the case of an explosion going off in atmosphere, the shock wave is pressure propagating through the air itself because of the sudden, forceful expansion of the atmosphere around the explosion. So superheating the atmosphere is still going to be a problem even if it’s not in a single concentrated explosion. On this scale, it’s just a matter of whether the devastation begins in one place and then spreads outward to encompass a whole hemisphere, or just engulfs the whole hemisphere all at once. I don’t see that difference mattering too much to the people who are roasting alive.
@52/sbursztynski: I don’t see how “Mary Sue” applies in this context. If Miramanee were a Mary Sue, then she’d be better than Kirk at everything, and he’d be in awe of her abilities. And we’ve all been talking about how the episode portrays her and her people as being useless, ignorant, and in awe of Kirk’s superior abilities at everything. That’s pretty much the exact opposite of Mary Sue plotting.
@54/noblehunter: Sure, maybe theoretically there might be scenarios where vaporizing the asteroid wouldn’t devastate the planet, but it’s still an insanely unnecessary waste of energy, because it’s so very, very much simpler just to nudge it a tiny bit off course. If it’s far enough away that it won’t hit the planet for two months, then the angle of deflection necessary to get it to miss the planet is tiny. It would take enormously less energy to deflect it a little bit and let it go harmlessly on its merry way than it would to disintegrate it altogether. Again: A planet is not a stationary target. It’s not like trying to keep a runaway car from hitting a building at the end of a street, it’s like trying to keep a runaway car from hitting a truck as they’re both racing along a dry lake bed in different directions. If you just nudge the car’s steering wheel a tiny bit while it’s still a good distance from the truck, it’ll miss the truck altogether. There’s no need to blow the car up altogether — there’s no need to even contemplate it as an option, because there’s an immensely simpler and smarter solution.
As for tractor beams, they were established as early as the second pilot of TOS, although we didn’t see one in operation until the next episode, “The Corbomite Maneuver.” Tractor beams were referenced quite frequently throughout TOS. In this case, the very first thing Spock tried against the asteroid was a deflector beam, which is just a tractor beam in reverse, pushing instead of pulling. It wasn’t deemed enough of a deflection to do the trick. What’s odd is that Spock abandoned that plan in favor of phasers. He had plenty of time to keep nudging the asteroid with the deflector beam until it was sufficiently altered in course. Perhaps he was in a hurry because he wanted to get back and find Kirk, but it was still a bad idea.
@55/Ellynne: When did Kirk introduce artificial light? I think there was a bit where he carved a gourd into a lantern, but people have had firelight for a very long time.
Christopher: Miramanee spoke of Kirk’s light-in-a-gourd as a brilliant invention of his. So yeah, he introduced artificial light, after a fashion.
—Keith R.A. DeCandido
Very much a product of it’s time in it’s depiction of native Americans, right down to casting Caucasians to play them. Nothing surprising here at all.
One thing I’ve always liked about this episode is the design of the obelisk. Except for the somewhat clumsy looking trap door, I’ve always thought it had a fairly alien quality to it. And I’ve got no problem believing that the Preservers are still around in the 23rd century and that they’re also ancient. Seeing as we know of humanoid races that can live for thousands of years, there’s no reason to assume that all races share what they would see as our incredibly short life spans. A race with generations of hundreds to thousands of years is far from impossible in the Trek universe.
@7. ChristopherLBennett – “Also, the farther away an asteroid is, the smaller the angle you’d have to divert it by in order to make it miss the planet. With two months’ worth of time to work on it, it would’ve been monumentally easy to prevent the asteroid from hitting the planet. All they had to do was have a shuttlecraft push sideways on it for a few weeks.”
I think you’re overestimating the power of a shuttlecraft or not realizing just how big this asteroid is.
“SPOCK: Doctor, that asteroid is almost as large as your Earth’s moon. Far enough away, the angle necessary to divert it enough to avoid destruction is minute, but as the asteroid approaches this planet, the angle becomes so great that even the power of a starship…”
Nearly as large as Eath’s moon. Let’s say that means it’s about 3/4 the diameter. That puts it between Europa and Triton in size. Roughly twice the size of Pluto. We’re not talking about some minor space rock here but what we would consider a dwarf planet.
Also, assuming it’s spinning (which every other planetary body we know of does), you wouldn’t be able to thrust against it for the entire time because you’d be cancelling out any gains for half of each rotation.
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This episode is basically on par with gangster planet or Nazi planet or Roman planet or the cowboy planet from Enterprise. Any resemblance to our reality is strictly coincidental. Kirk doesn’t even have any trouble speaking the local language even though he just showed up. Best not to think about it too much.
@59/kkozoriz: They always speak the local language, due to magical universal translators.
There’s a cowboy planet on Enterprise? (So far, I’ve only watched the first season and some second season episodes.)
@59/kkozoriz: Of course it wouldn’t be easy to deflect an asteroid of that size, but the point is that it only has to be nudged a slight bit off course, so slow and steady nudging for two months could probably do it.
As for rotation, you could park an engine at one of its poles and point it straight upward. After all, it doesn’t matter which way you deflect it, so long as you deflect it.
Let’s math it out. If it’s almost as large as Earth’s Moon, let’s say it’s 7 x 10^22 kg. Wikipedia says an average velocity for an Earth impact event is 17 km/s, so let’s go with that for simplicity. If it’s exactly 60 days from impact, it’d be 88 million km away. If “Amerind” is about the size of Earth, say 12,000 km in diameter, then it would subtend less than half an arcminute in the sky, so you’d only need to deflect its vector by half an arcminute.
…But I’m afraid I can’t for the life of me remember the math for how to calculate the amount of force you’d need to do that. Presumably it would be far easier than the greater deflection angle you’d need when the asteroid is closer, but I don’t know the equation. Can someone help me out here?
Anyway, Spock was right that it would get harder to deflect the closer it got to the planet, but he was wrong to assume the only option was to make a single attempt to push it or fracture it. He had two months during which he could’ve applied periodic, repeated deflections that added up over time, which would’ve made far more sense than burning out the ship’s engines trying to do it all in one go.
@60/Jana: Yes, there’s an Old West planet in ENT: “North Star” in season 3. It was an homage to TOS’s parallel-Earth episodes, although the inhabitants were actually human abductees from the Old West.
@44 ChristopherLBennett
Beautifully put. Up to this point in STID, I thought we might be on track for one of the best Trek films yet. There was stuff in the first arc to quibble over, sure, but the groundwork was laid for exploring some great themes and character work. Unfortunately, after this point the film completely falls apart for me, because none of this stuff pays off.
@32/Christopher – my cancelled Abramsverse novel written after the first film … How much of that story are you at liberty to tell (the real-world story, I mean, not the plot of your book)? I always wondered what happened to those books after they were announced. Wasn’t the cover art even released? And that one about Pike (The Children of Kings, I think?) still managed to get released because I guess nothing in it contradicted the Prime Universe too badly – but the author explicitly said in his afterword he wrote it about Bruce Greenwood’s Pike, despite Hunter and Nimoy being on the cover.
By the way, thank you for keeping us “close to the text” regarding the Preservers. I admit I was relying on assumptions and half-gone memories from watching this one a long time ago. Handled correctly and sticking to the established onscreen facts, as you do, they’re a much more interesting concept than I gave them credit for!
Wait, how is this one worse than Elaan or Omega Glory? They’re all bad, Omega Glory is also pretty well established in the white (American) savior camp, and this episode at least has a sensible and sympathetic interaction between Spock and McCoy. (Not that McCoy’s medical knowledge is useful for anything this time around – he can’t get a Spock to eat and sleep, can’t deal with presumably internal injuries on a human when he’s rewired Spock’s brain in the past…)
@63/MikePoteet: My information about the reasons for the cancellation is third-hand at best, and it’s not my place to go into specifics. All I can say is that, from what I understand, it was a side effect of a larger business decision resulting from something else, and wasn’t specifically about the books themselves or their content. It’s just the sort of thing that happens sometimes — projects fall through for external reasons, and you chalk it up to experience and move on to the next project. Luckily, in this case, the falling-through happened after we’d delivered our manuscripts and met our contractual responsibilities, so all four of us got paid for our work.
There was preliminary cover art released, fairly generic shots of the new cast on the new bridge and the like, but only in black and white for the retailers’ catalog. I don’t know if it would’ve been the final art.
The Children of Kings was written (or at least plotted) at an early enough point that the folks at Pocket didn’t quite know what they’d be doing in regard to the new universe or what its exact continuity details would be. So it was written to be sort of betwixt and between, in its own version of the continuity that didn’t quite fit in either Prime or Abramsverse. After all, if there could be two distinct versions of the universe, why not more?
@57, I was using artificial light in the sense of light-source-other-than-natural-illumination. Fire falls into this category. I would assume the locals had had some form of it but, apparently, Kirk’s lamp was the bee’s knees for illumination and way beyond anything then available on the planet. As I said above, I assume they were trying to make some kind of light bulb comparison. It would have resonated with the audience of the time but isn’t terribly logical since the light sources electric light replaces were generally quite inferior (they also tended to result in a lot of soot build up, one of the reasons for “spring cleaning” after a winter build up of soot from fires, oil lamps, and candles). But, hey, they were trying to make Kirk look cool and like he was earning his job title as shaman.
@66/Ellynne: I did not know that about the origins of “spring cleaning.” Neat! (Err, no pun intended.)
61. ChristopherLBennett – If Trek were hard science then I’d agree that Spock could have done as you suggested. However, in the Trek universe, he’s acknowledged as a brilliant scientist who would have done as you suggest if it were possible. The fact that he didn’t tells me that there was some reason why he didn’t. Much like Geordi or Scotty can solve a complex engineering problem by reversing the polarity or nu-Kirk can fix a M/AM reactor by kicking it into position, we accept that these people know what they’re doing even when their actions make no sense in our reality.
One thing I’ll allays be grateful for is that this episode gave us the infamous Spock blooper “The plants act as suppositories.” For this alone, I’m glad we got it.
I think it is safe to say that the latest Star Trek Beyond trailer does a far better job of conveying the movie’s tone and direction. This has me far more eager to check the film out compared to that first teaser.
And yet, even after the director expressed his disapproval for putting the motorcycle (?) in the first one, there it is again.
The Trek and the Furious.
@65/Christopher – Thanks for the response. I hope those novels will get to see the light of day sometime.
What I really remember most about The Children of Kings is how “off” Dr. Boyce, who is (IIRC) the protagonist, seemed to me — which is may be too harsh a judgment, since he’s onscreen for all of, what, five minutes total maybe? Still, since “The Menagerie” is my favorite episode ever, I tend to overthink anything connected with it!
@71/MikePoteet: I doubt very much that the novels will ever be published in their original form. The Abramsverse itself has evolved in ways that may render their stories obsolete; I know the plot of my Seek a Newer World overlapped with certain character and thematic threads in STID sufficiently that it pretty much renders the story moot.
But that’s not the end of the world. Every writer does a lot of stories that never get sold or published. It’s not that uncommon; it just usually isn’t so public. Heck, the fact that we actually got paid for our unpublished work in this case puts us ahead of the game. And ideas from unpublished works can always be cannibalized and repurposed in later works. It’s all just part of the game. Really, it’s been six years now. I and the other novelists have all long since moved on. You’d be best off doing the same.
Honestly, when I went back and took another look at Seek a Newer World not long ago, I wasn’t crazy about a lot of it. I enjoyed the challenge of starting from scratch with a new version of the Trek characters and continuity, but since there was so little to build on, and since I had to tread carefully to have minimal impact on continuity, the book inevitably ended up a little superficial compared to my other work. And there was one major subplot in it that didn’t really work and came out as too much of the “obstructionist superior officer” cliche. It was a fun experiment, but if it had been published as planned, I don’t think it would be considered one of my better books.
@24 Keith–It occurs to me that I should clarify that the “heh-heh” in my original post #19 was meant as a chuckle marking the “notes” pun (re: musical notes in the language), not a snarky comment on the similarities between your review and the Planet of Hats comic. I assumed that the similarity was simply due to two fine minds observing the same flaws and plot holes, and I just wanted to remind people to check out the PoH version.
Well, I have nice memories of this episode… but they’re actually mostly about the Blish version, so maybe the racism was softened there.
@66 – Ellynne: I also loved learning the origins of “spring cleaning”.
@70 – kkozoriz: As has been mentioned in this site many times, trailers are cut by trailer production companies, and the directors have no say most of the time.
75. lordmagnusen – That’s true, however that scene does seem to be getting a lot of play. Both trailers and it’s on the poster too. According to Simon Pegg, we’re supposed to be out in unexplored space (Wow, what a concept for a Trek film. Any Trek film) and yet even here, Kirk tracks down a motorcycle. Did he have it on the Enterprise and managed to stuff it in an escape pod or do the aliens have a dealership somewhere we don’t know about?
Besides, trailer production companies don’t have carte blanche. Do you think they’d be allowed to get away with putting in a scene of Cumberbach saying “My name is Khan.”? They may make the trailers but the production still has final say on them.
@76/kkozoriz: Actually there have been cases where trailers have given away major spoilers that the filmmakers wanted to keep secret. That infamously happened with How to Train Your Dragon 2 — the filmmakers were quite upset when the trailer spoiled the secret of a key character’s identity.
I rest my case. Plus, in this case, they’re trying to cash in on the director’s previous work on The Fast & The Furious.
77. ChristopherLBennett – However, that was still approved and released by the studio. It’s not like the trailer production company also is in charge of advertising. If it’s on the screen, somebody at the studio approved it.
Probably the most famous example of a trailer that spoiled something against the direct wishes of the producer was Star Trek III: The Search for Spock. Harve Bennett and the rest of the production staff went to Herculean lengths to keep the fact that the Enterprise was blown up a secret.
So it came as rather a surprise to Bennett when he was sitting at home and a trailer for Star Trek III aired with a big extended shot of the Big E going boom. Bennett was, reportedly, furious, but nobody told the people making the trailer that that part was supposed to be secret…..
—Keith R.A. DeCandido
80. krad – Agreed. I remember seeing the trailer for the first time and being shocked and surprised that they’d spoil a ploy point like that. However, someone at Paramount still had to approve the trailer. It’s not the fault of the people who made the trailer, it’s the fault of someone in the production. I would imagine that Harve Bennett would have insisted on approval of any trailers after that incident. He’s the producer. Ultimately, he’s the one responsible for the production.
And all you say still doesn’t mean that the trailer reflects the director’s vision for the film.
If you want to draw in the non-fans you gotta chuck some big reveals into the trailer, that is just how it goes. People use the trailers to judge whether or not it is worth their time and money getting a ticket and without knowing the plot and getting a taste of the big reveal they are not going to do that. It is an obvious clash between the director and their artistic vision who want to control how the viewer consumes the material in order to elicit the correct emotional reactions and the marketing guy whose job it is to make sure as many people as possible buy a ticket. And also the fans who would be going anyway and don’t want to know so they can get that fan fresh experience and those average movie goers who the trailer needs to compete for who don’t want to be tantalised just entertained.
Besides, studies have shown that knowing the plot in advance actually enhances the movie going experience. Science was done and it turns out that “spoilers” do not spoil.
Science cannot determine if people enjoy movies more or less if they know the plot. They might find that more people enjoy movies when they know the plot, but they can’t tell us what we like or not.
82. lordmagnusen – No, but it does show that he’s totally in favour of the motorcycle being there in the first place. He’s peeved because the trailer spoiled his surprise, not because there’s motorcycle at all.
Either Kirk had his own motorcycle with him and managed to save it when the ship is so badly damaged that they have to take to the escape pods or he somehow manages to find a motorcycle on an alien planet, far out on the frontier that just happens to be exactly what he needs to save the day as the Great American Space Hero ™.
Either way, the motorcycle looks pretty dumb to me and the fact that it’s from the hands of the director of The Fast and the Furious doesn’t do anything to make me feel better about it. But it looks “kool” so I’m sure there’s a portion of the audience that will eat it up.
No point in further comments, is there?
Late to the game here, as usual, but wouldn’t Moe, Larry and Curly have been a more apt analogy than Groucho, Chico and Harpo, given the context?
Pat D: I adore and worship the Marx Brothers and despise the Three Stooges with the fiery hot passion of a thousand suns, so if given a choice, I will always go for the Marx reference rather than the Stooges one.
—Keith R.A. DeCandido
@66KKozoriz, as Canada’s Classic Trekspert, I am delighted to help with some trivia. (As some of you know, I started this rewatch very very VERY late so have restrained commenting on threads that are weeks/months old and forgotten).
The “suppositories” blooper was not from this episode, but in reference to the plant pods in This Side of Paradise (and I am guessing because the episode titles are familiar, you conflated or confused the two).
And Keith, I am not sure why it never struck me, but both of those comedy groups were Jewish brothers/family members (at least the original Three Stooges), and growing up in that environment I think I was expected to love and admire them but I have never liked either one (I find the Marx Brothers to be cleverer but just cannot get into their movies). Would you mind explaining why you love one and hate the other?
@89/Lou FW Israel: I don’t know what Keith will say, but I agree with him about Marx vs. Stooges. The Marx Brothers are great because they balance inspired verbal humor and wordplay with visual humor, and because their focus is mainly on absurdism and iconoclasm, deflating the pretentious and the self-important. The Three Stooges are much more lowbrow, relying on physical slapstick and comedy violence. Their attitude was generally angry, while the Marxes’ was more playful and wry. Even when Chico was driving Groucho crazy with his impenetrable illogic and confused grasp of language, Groucho just took it with good humor and even joined in the joke at his own expense. Even when the Marxes frustrated and confounded each other, they liked each other. It was only the characters around them who got furious at their antics, and they’d just remain above the fray and respond with more playfulness. (Okay, Harpo did occasionally knock out bad guys with a mallet, but only if they deserved it, and he’d do it with the same childlike, mischievous grin he always had.) I feel that the Three Stooges were bullies (or at least Moe was), while the Marx Brothers stood up to bullies.
The other thing I like about the Marx Brothers is how musical they were. Chico did great stuff with his comic piano playing. And while it may have been completely incongruous to see the manic, lunatic Harpo suddenly get serious and play a beautiful harp solo with a focus and concentration completely unlike his normal persona, it was wonderful in its way, because that incongruity gave the character a depth he might not otherwise have had. Or at the very least, getting this glimpse of the real, soulful performer beneath his zany and chaotic stage persona helped reassure us that the outrageous and borderline-sociopathic things he did were just an act and it was really okay.
Christopher very succinctly sums up why I prefer the Marx Brothers to the Three Stooges, adding only that I will always go for wordplay over slapstick. In particular, I find Groucho to be one of my heroes, an anarchic clown who is magnificent and always puncturing the self-important. His persona has lived on in and inspired so many, most notably Bugs Bunny, Hawkeye Pierce, and Mr. Kotter.
—Keith R.A. DeCandido
I’ve never seen a Marx Brothers film in my life. Which one would you guys recommend?
@92: I’ve actually just started a re-watch of the Marx Brothers DVD sets I inherited from my father, but I’d say there are two candidates for their greatest film, Duck Soup from 1933 and A Night at the Opera from 1935. The former was their last film with Paramount and their last as a 4-man team (though Zeppo tended to be overlooked anyway, as the straight man of the team), while the latter was their first MGM film and probably their biggest, lushest production, if sometimes seen as domesticating the Marxes a bit, toning down their anarchy and making them more heroic. Some think Opera is their best film, while others prefer the Paramount era.
Although you might want to start with the one I’m watching today, Animal Crackers from 1930. It’s their second film, better than their debut The Cocoanuts, and pretty archetypal of their work, and it features the song that became Groucho’s theme song for the rest of his career. (It does have some borderline-racist stuff in it, though, with the whole “African explorer” angle.)
Writer Mark Evanier is a great fan of the Marx Brothers. He knows more about them than many people that have written books about them (He just hasn’t gotten around to doing one on them yet.) Check out his page. The link will take you to the search results on his blog for everything with Marx in it.
Mark Evanier Marx Brothers results
Thanks, Chris, I’ll check those out.
I respectfully disagree, blasting the asteroid in two would not have had 2 asteroids hitting the planet, the left side would have continued left and the right side continued right and they probably would have missed the planet.
@61/CLB: Six months late, but I can brush off my astrophysics studies to help with that! To first approximation (i.e. ignoring the gravitation of the targeted planet), the only things that matter are the perpendicular distance to move the object off the line of approach (one planet radius, or 6000 km) and the time required to do so (60 days). Using constant acceleration (i.e. rocket motors), a little algebra shows that the minimum force required is 2 * object mass * planet radius / time^2, working out in your example to 3.126 x 10^16 N; that’s the equivalent of 906 million (!) Saturn V rockets. Using instead an instantaneous sideways kick (i.e. big ol’ photon torpedo spread or somesuch) to have the object coast the distance at constant velocity, more algebra shows that the minimum required kinetic energy is object mass * (planet radius)^2 / ( 2 * time^2), working out to 4.689 x 10^22 J; that’s the equivalent of 11.2 million megatons of TNT.
Oof, that’s a hella lot of energy either way. Best not to wait until just two months before impact…or else hope the object is more like the estimated size of the Chicxclub impactor: 10^15 kg, approximately 7 million times less massive than your estimate for the Moon. In that case you’d only need 129 Saturn Vs, or 1.6 megatons worth of photon torpedoes. Big E might be able to handle that despite Scotty’s protests.
@96/hifijohn: The two fragments would miss to either side only if you ensured that each of the two fragments had sufficient sideways velocity to overcome their mutual gravitation in addition to the considerations I explore above. Shoving the whole body aside at once is probably more energy efficient and doesn’t run the risk of creating a rubble pile that would be just as damaging as the original object.
People hating this episode are grumpy…this, for the time it was made, was a good episode. Some people take life too seriously; I pity them.
This is one of the episodes I find too embarrassing to ever rewatch. Those Indian costumes are horrible, to start with nobody wore their best beaded outfits everyday! Its like housewives doing their chores in fashionable New Look dresses and pearls!
@99/Roxana: Interesting point about the beaded outfits, although I assume that was a common mistake back in the day. They probably used those costumes because the studio had them lying around anyway.
Since this is the 23rd century, not the 19th, we can make something up. Let’s say life was so peaceful and plentiful that the arts flourished, people acquired some wealth, and what used to be festive clothing slowly became everyday wear. While they still didn’t have irrigation or lamps…
A couple of interesting points regarding this episode. First, here’s still another instance of Captain Kirk losing the woman he loved—I’ve often wondered if this is a constant in so many stories. I recall that in the Offenbach opera “Tales of Hoffman” the protagonist has that happen to him four times: he falls for a woman who turns out to be a robot; he is taken in by a scam artist; he falls for a woman who insists she has to go her own way; and Antonia—the one true love of his life—is murdered right under his nose. And then, during and after “Star Trek” there was a long-running police drama, “Hawaii Five-O”, in which the head of that organization—Steve McGarrett—was highly successful in solving murders and other nefarious activities but had no luck in the romance department, such as the case where a woman to whom he was attracted and whom he could have loved turned out to be the “heavy artillery”—a hitwoman assigned to kill him. Of course, it didn’t work. And later in that same series a woman with whom he was very much in love was murdered, and there was nothing he could do because he was unconscious at the time. The second point: the Vulcan mind-fusion—the most powerful and the most strenuous of all the mind-melds we have seen in Trek—do you remember when Spock asked Dr. McCoy “Do you think he’s strong enough for the Vulcan mind-fusion?” and Bones answered “We have no choice”, as this was the only way to break the captain’s amnesia. This was a real toughie—a struggle which, though ultimately successful, actually knocked the wind out of the Vulcan! Imagine!—Spock out of breath as he gasped, “His mind—he’s an extremely dynamic individual!” As I watched that sequence I had to catch my breath. Whew! Anyway, these are two elements that really caught my attention.
Obviously, as a product of the ’60s, there’s going to be some racism in these stories. I’m not going to get into the reasons for that. But granting that, then the question becomes, how could we reasonably expect this episode to have been better?
First, I think a subtler look at Kirk’s happiness would have gone a long way. They managed not to have Kirk hugging himself with “doofy-ass voiceovers” in “City on the Edge of Forever,” and I think if they’d managed that here the episode would be much more fondly remembered. But maybe the writer couldn’t figure out another way for Kirk to express that sentiment without talking about how coarse and rough and irritating sand is, and so we were left with this. Alas…
Second, there’s the ridiculously sudden (and cartoonish) stoning scene. Since this episode reminds me of Gunsmoke, I wonder what they would have done with such a concept on that show. Most likely the locals’ disappointment in Kirok would have been a slow burn, leading to a (farcical) trial, then to a stoning at the base of the temple. Then if that’s when the planetary disturbances started happening, followed by Spock and McCoy appearing, the locals could have been forced to wonder if their actions had angered the gods. Instead, they may as well have had somebody hawking fake beards for the women to wear, for as silly as the scene turned out.
So, as with much of the third season, we have a Trek episode that could have been much better but was ultimately handed over to people who didn’t seem to know how to put the finishing trim on it.
Has any author attempted to re-write any of these “lame” TOS episodes so as to make them better plot-wise, dialogue-wise and cultural-wise?
@101, it’s called the Cartwright Curse, see tvtropes.com, but don’t plan anything else for that day. It’s the romantic version of ‘status quo is God’.
Gotta feel bad for that Salish dude. Kirok steals his girl, he steals his job, he even steals his clothes! (the headband)
All I really remember about this episode is William Shatter gleefully chewing up all available scenery. Not that that’s a Bad Thing.
Bad bad bad bad and did I mention bad? This episode is one of my most dreaded rewatches, without calling it the worst episode ever; but it’s pretty close.
@krad, To Boldly Go:
I know the whole point of the scene was to further depict Miramanee’s people as primitive and it is still blatantly insulting. However, this scene might not be as absurd as it seems. I’m not a clothing historian so I can’t say for sure, but I don’t think tight fitting pull-on garments were a thing back in the time period this episode depicts for its indigenous peoples. The prospect of Kirok’s shirt not having fasteners might legitimately confuse someone who’s not used to it.
Of course there’s always the zipper issue. I know some, if not all the season 1-2 uniforms had a zipper in the shoulder. I don’t know about the season 3 uniforms. It’s also unclear if the zipper was “supposed” to be there or it was only part of the costume for the actors to get into it more easily. Regardless, the modern zipper wasn’t invented until the early 20th century, so that mechanism would definitely be unknown to Miramanee.
@107/Thierafhal: I covered this back in comment #35:
“…Starfleet uniform shirts were supposed to use some advanced, futuristic fastening technology. In the first season, they were actually sewn onto the actors; a shoulder seam was left open so the actors could put them on, then invisibly sewn shut. Starting in season 2, they put a hidden zipper in the shoulder seam. So the implicit idea was that the shirt fastened by some means that even 20th-century people would be confused by.”
A minor point, but I always thought that the tunics had off-center zippers, even in the first season.
This appears to be a zipper on Kirk’s tunic. Occasionally a zipper pull shows up.
@109/BeeGee: Yes, sometimes the reality behind the illusion slips through, but that shouldn’t be mistaken for the intent. Sometimes you can see that a “corridor” is actually a forced-perspective painting on a set wall, or that a green alien has pink flesh peeking out under the edges of her clothing, but that doesn’t mean it’s supposed to be that way in-story. It just means the illusion is imperfect.
@110:/CLB
There was also the Andorian thrall who’s shirt came loose during one of the fights in “The Gamesters of Triskelion” and you could the actor’s real skin, haha. But ya, it happens.
Lordy, that was terrible. First “Elaan of Troyius” and now this. I knew from the moment I saw Miramanee this would be a painful episode and it managed to hit every racist cliché in the process in a way that’s almost impressive. Joins the growing list of episodes I straight-up hated (“Patterns of Force,” “The Omega Glory,” “Elaan of Troyius”).
I re-watched this episode yesterday. I wonder from what year the Native Americans were transplanted to the planet? Before the European colonization of North America or after?
@113/Paladin: The three tribes Spock mentions as their antecedents — Delaware, Mohican, and Navajo — are from entirely different parts of the country, and the only time they would’ve all been endangered at once was after European colonization, the 17th or 18th century. Plus one of them, the Navajo, didn’t really exist in a form Spock would’ve recognized prior to the 17th century.
@113/CLB: Thanks for the historical information.
As a child, I didn’t know about Star Trek’s budget limitations and wondered why they went to so many Earth-like planets and met Earth-type humans (Romans, Greeks, cowboys, Chicago mobsters and here American Indians). Thus, I have always disliked this episode, but in recent years I think it’s not bad at all and even has a very moving ending (when Miramanee dies). I loved the fact that the planet scenes were filmed outdoors on location (instead of a claustrophobic TV studio set). But I wish they had more scenes on the Enterprise where Spock was fighting with McCoy and Scott over how to deflect the asteroid. “Spock in command” always generates interesting dialogue and conflicts. Oh, and the bit at the end where Spock does a mind-meld with Kirk and Spock comments what a “dynamic individual” the Captain is was gratuitous and cringeworthy.