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Loki Turns Up the Heat as We Meet “The Variant”

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Published on June 16, 2021

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Loki, season 1 episode 2, The Variant
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We’re back and we’re still trouncing Odin’s namesake with chaos. The second episode is here, and the word of the day is: Roxxcart.

[Spoilers for Loki below.]

Summary

Loki and Mobius head to Oshkosh, Wisconsin in 1985 to the Ren Faire, where the latest Loki Variant strike has taken place. One of their hunters, C-20 (Sasha Lane), is missing, and Mobius asks Loki if he has any information for them. Loki suggests that the whole scenario is a trap that they’re walking into, and he can help as long as he gets some assurances. One of those assurances is meeting the Time Keepers. Mobius realizes that Loki is bullshitting and they reset the event with their charges. Renslayer warns Mobius that he only gets one more shot with Loki, and that trusting him is a mistake, but Mobius insists that he can get somewhere with this particular Variant—that perhaps Loki is tired of his lot and ready for a change. He tells Loki that this is his last chance, and sends him to go over all files containing information of himself and his Variants.

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Loki finds his answer when going over the file on Ragnarok: He believes that the other Variant is hiding in Apocalypse events because no matter what you do during those events, you can’t disrupt an area in space-time that’s about to be obliterated. To test this theory they head to Pompeii before Mount Vesuvius blows. Mobius tries to tread carefully, but Loki insists on making a scene and shouting at the populace. The volcano goes off, and Mobius observes that no Variance energy has been detected—Loki was right. The problem is that they have to find the specific extinction event where the Variant is located. Mobius realizes that the candy the little girl had is a useful clue: Kablooie was made in a specific time period on Earth, so they can track doomsdays in that time bracket. Eventually, they come across a hurricane in Alabama in 2050 that fits the bill, and guess that the Variant is probably hiding in a Roxxcart superstore that’s serving as a shelter for residents. They form a team and head out to catch the Variant.

Hunter B-15 insists that Loki stay under her watch despite Mobius’ protests, and they all fan out in search. Mobius and his crew happen across Agent C-20, who isn’t making any sense, repeating phrases over and over. B-15 gets tapped by a civilian holding the Variant’s magic and it takes control of her body—it speaks to Loki through her, and then through a number of other civilians once she passes out. They trade barbs, with Loki demanding that the Variant show itself so that they can talk; he has plans to take over the TVA and thinks this Variant could serve as a lieutenant of sorts. The Variant isn’t interested, and eventually does come out of hiding, revealing themselves as what appears to be a female version of Loki (Sophia Di Martino). She tells Loki that this isn’t about him as her mass of TVA charges activate and are transported elsewhere. The female Variant slips through a doorway in space-time. Mobius arrives in time to see Loki consider his options, and dive in after her.

 

Commentary

Here’s the thing.

If the character we just met turns out to be the Lady Loki, I will be thrilled. I’ve wanted to see her on screen for ages. Love her costume (she’s got the Agent of Asgard version of the helm with the tiny horns, one broken). Very intrigued to see what another Loki might be up to. Tom Hiddleston and showrunner Michael Waldron have stated that Loki is genderfluid and that they were aware going in how important it was for a lot of fans to see that aspect of the character. But this could still be a different villain pretending to be Loki to trick him, as I’ve mentioned before. And if they use a female version of Loki to play that trick, then none of this counts.

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Sure, we could say “but the point is that Loki doesn’t bat an eye at seeing his female aspect, which means he’s not surprised, which means he’s been her before, thereby confirming said genderfluidity.” And I’m here to say, emphatically, that’s not good enough. I’m here to say it as a nonbinary reviewer with a vested interest in them showing the world that one of my favorite Marvel characters is like me. If this turns out to be Enchantress, or any other villain, or this Variant is somehow outside of their reality… then we still won’t have met the actual Lady Loki, and the whole exercise is moot.

Marvel Studios has done an absolutely horrific job on any form of queer representation since its launch in 2008. Nothing is ever set in stone because they want to be able to strip out content that might offend markets abroad. (Plenty of places around the world are even less queer-friendly than the U.S., and will not show any content featuring queer characters to the public.) The most we’ve gotten out of Marvel is an extremely offensive one-shot where Justin Hammer is shown to have a lover in prison, the barest suggestion that a pair of murderous pirates in Guardians of the Galaxy 2 might have been spooning, and an awkward director cameo in Endgame where a guy mentions his partner. Everything else is fandom desperately wishing and hoping, and Marvel has proven they don’t care about that; Carol Danvers has a “lesbian haircut” now, but we’re given no indication of her preferences; the scene showing that Valkyrie’s fallen comrade was actually her girlfriend was cut from Ragnarok; Steve Rogers gives up everything for Bucky Barnes over and over again only to vanish at the end of Endgame to go dance with Peggy Carter, leaving his entire reason for being on the other proverbial side of the universe. As for trans, intersex, or ace representation, you can just forget it.

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So now I’m stuck in an awkward position where I likely won’t know whether or not I even like this show until the season wraps. Because there’s always one more twist, one more reveal in these things, and I can’t let myself hope that this is really Loki. I can’t give them the benefit of the doubt—assurances from the showrunner and Hiddleston aside—because as Loki says in this very episode “trust has to be earned” and Marvel Studios hasn’t earned it. Asking trans people to go along for that ride, knowing that trust has a track record of being betrayed, is absurd.

If they do it right, this will be one of my favorite things they’ve ever made, hands down. If not… this is going to be really hard.

So there’s that.

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As for the rest of the episode, it’s bemusing to see the Ren Faire in Wisconsin name-dropped even if it isn’t accurate—the Wisconsin Renaissance Faire is held in Bristol, Kenosha County, and has been since it was founded in the 1970s. (The reason I know this is because it was my Ren Faire growing up, having been raised mostly in the Chicagoland area. I’ve spent many-an-hour getting shouted at by knife jugglers and watching Mud Shows there.) It’s been suggested that moving it to Oshkosh is a reference to the birthplace of Mark Gruenwald, longtime Marvel executive editor who served as the visual template for Mobius in the comics. My nostalgia and desire for historical accuracy kinda wishes they’d kept the location accurate, though.

We’re learning a bit more of the mechanics about how the TVA work here… enough to know that something is off. The conversation between Mobius and Loki about belief furthers this superbly in terms of pointing out places where the disconnect could be. Loki pokes at Mobius’ reasons for being, his worldview (universe-view?), and points out that he’s taking a lot of his existence on a very strange form of faith. Arguably, he’s been designed that way, if we buy that the Time Keepers truly did create everyone and thing at the TVA. Which… if they didn’t, that essentially means that they’re holding all these people hostage to do their bidding. Moreover, we keep having our attention drawn to the fact that no one ever gets to see the Time Keepers; there’s a suggestion that Renslayer does, but the information she gives is so vague that it’s hard to believe.

Loki, season 1 episode 2, The Variant
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So what are the Time Keepers really? Is this a Star Trek thing where they used to be these awesome beings and now they’re brains in jars? Are they just a big ol’ computer spitting out data? Is Renslayer acting on their behalf or replacing them because she knows something about the system we’re not seeing? It could easily be any of those things, or a combination, or something else entirely. No matter what, though, the TVA is hiding just as much as Loki is. Perhaps the whole goal here is letting the God of Mischief burn the place to the ground? After all, their end goal is a universe sorted with nothing but order unto the end. Loki is a being of chaos and, more importantly, the concept of order equating to correctness or goodness is frankly incompatible with our universe as we know it.

So we’ve got a lot of questions, but we do know one thing: There is honestly nothing more entertaining that watching Loki free goats and shout in Latin that everyone is about to die while explaining that he’s (maybe) from the future. That’s probably what I would want to do if I were in Pompeii on volcano day and spoke Latin, if I’m being honest.

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It does beg a lot of questions about language issues with Asgardians and how the MCU has handled that problem before, namely (a) why does Loki know Latin at all? (b) the assumption among fandom had been that he was speaking the All-Tongue—an Asgardian language that can be understood by everyone somehow—which is why we hear him speaking in English in Germany in The Avengers and can presume he was understood, but (c) we saw him try to pull the same trick in Mongolia in the first episode and the people there clearly had no idea what he was saying, so what is going on here? Not that it really matters, we can all make up whatever we want, except it matters to me a lot and I should probably figure out how to stop caring about that.

And I have one more question… why Earth? Obviously, the Variant hiding out in Earth Apocalypses makes a bit of sense with the seeding of the candy, but why are these hits against the TVA only being carried out on Earth? They operate across the whole universe, right? So what’s the deal with that? (I also have questions about why everyone at the TVA appears human, but maybe that’s best reserved for another time…) I’m sure they could come up with a reason, but in the end, it’s probably just a matter of plot convenience, which is kind of unfortunate. It would be fun to see a couple different worlds during all this.

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Thoughts and Asides:

  • As great as the opening fight sequence was in terms of action, I’m not sure the use of Bonnie Tyler’s “Holding Out for a Hero” was earned. That’s the kinda song you want some context for, and there really wasn’t any there.
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  • I do dearly appreciate Loki’s pettiness in detailing the differences in types of magic he uses because you can just hear him saying that to Thor when they’re little, exactly the same way.
  • The Roxxcart superstore is undoubtedly owned by the fictional Marvel company Roxxon, which was responsible in the comics for all sorts of awful things, including the murder of Tony Stark’s parents at one point.
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  • We actually get a death toll on Ragnarok, which bears out a theory that I’ve had for a while—being that Asgard was probably pretty sparsely populated due size and their species being extremely long-lived. If your death toll on an extinction event doesn’t even break ten-thousand, you’re looking at people who expect to be around a long while. The real question is, how many escaped? I’m guessing between one and two thousand? And then half of them were murdered by Thanos? And then another half got snapped maybe? So at the start of Endgame, there were probably only about five-hundred Asgardians left. Yikes.
Loki, season 1 episode 2, The Variant
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  • Okay, but seriously, the last season of The Umbrella Academy has Five Hargreeves murder his time agency’s board of directors in the 1980s in Oshkosh, Wisconsin. I’m kind of hoping this is just a pure coincidence rather than a deliberate reference because the idea the we somehow got two major space-time events in the span of one year on two different shows in Oshkosh, Wisconsin in the same decade is one of those weird serendipities that makes life good.

See you next week, multiverse pals.

Emmet Asher-Perrin is going to need your salad and some salt and pepper shakers now, thank you. You can bug them on Twitter, and read more of their work here and elsewhere.

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Kait
3 years ago

I agree with your hesitation about Lady Loki.

I guess to me (speaking as a trans person), I won’t consider the series to be doing much in terms of genderfluid characters unless Hiddleston’s Loki, the protagonist of the series, shifts aspect. If this new variant does turn out to be a Lady Loki (and not, like, Enchantress or something), great, but it’ll still be kind of a shrug for me.

Marvel has its history of tucking queerness into alternate universe/timelines, and that’s just not enough these days. Part of why Loki’s gender shifting in the comics had as much impact as it did was because it wasn’t an alternate timeline/universe thing, as Al Ewing’s run made explicitly clear, it was part of their identity.

For now, I’m just assuming she’s not actually Loki. (She even says not to call her that.) That way, if I’m wrong, I can be pleasantly surprised.

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Austin
3 years ago

I did read an article today that someone noticed that in other regions, Sophia Di Martino was identified in the credits as “Sylvie,” which is the name of the Enchantress. So, that does not bode well…

Steve Rogers gives up everything for Bucky Barnes over and over again only to vanish at the end of Endgame to go dance with Peggy Carter, leaving his entire reason for being on the other proverbial side of the universe.

No offense, but this strikes me as not understanding the bond between soldiers and the kind of intense loyalty it creates. Soldiers in a unit together will literally go to the bowels of hell for each other. This was not, IMO, homoerotic subtext between Steve and Bucky. I’m not saying you can’t project yourself onto characters; Lord knows that Hollywood, and particularly Marvel, haven’t done enough for queer representation. But not everything is a slight against the queer community or intentional queerbaiting. Men are perfectly capable of intense loyalty and platonic love between each other. Ok, stepping down from my soapbox now.

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Mr. Magic
3 years ago

Re: diversity/queer representation problems…

It’s worth pointing out one major factor with the MCU’s diversity issues (at least during the Infinity Saga-era) was former Marvel Chairman Ike Perlmitter.

There have been more than enough horror stories about Perlmutter’s misogyny and racism that he cloaked behind a veneer of corporatism, markets, etc.

And we know Feige had to fight tooth and nail to get Black Panther and Captain Marvel added to the Phase 3 production Slate (and adding Inhumans was the consolation as part of Perlmutter’s obsession with phasing out the X-Men to spite Fox for not selling the media rights back).

It doesn’t fully absolve Marvel Studios and Phase Four will be the best of how far Feige can keep pushing representation (especially Queer in this case) now that he’s long gone.

But the damage Perlmutter did also can’t be ignored, either.

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David H Olivier
3 years ago

Of course, a time-displaced visitor speaking in Latin in Pompeii on Volcano Day only comes out as some form of Celtic, as Donna Noble discovered in “The Fires of Pompeii.”

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3 years ago

In ENDGAME, a bunch of warrior Asgardians step through one of the portals in the “Avengers Assemble” moment.  If anyone here can look at the moment and figure out how many Asgardians were fighters when most of those seen in INFINITY WAR were small families, it might give a better sense of how many survived.  Of course, it will never answer the most important question, where the heck does Valkyrie get her Pegasus from for fights?  And can I get one, too?   

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theMattBoard
3 years ago

@5 concerning acquiring a Pegasus

This is covered in an episode of Community

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3 years ago

Emmet, I’m right there with you on every point except for Steve/Bucky. There is a media insistence on sex and romance and the lack of healthy male relationships. I respect your desire for queer representation but the idea that Steve and Bucky cannot be this close without being gay, to me, is part of the same toxic masculine mindset that says men cannot form close bonds filled with tender moments. The lack of queer relationships is a serious issue that needs to be fixed. These two characters, as presented, are the only example of an intense, healthy male friendship in the MCU not between family members and changing that would be damaging.

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3 years ago

@6  And? A pocket universe?  Hertz Rent-a-Pony?  

@7  I agree.  Not every relationship is about sex, whatever the gender or sexual preference.  I have all kinds of friends, and not a one of us want to sleep with the other.  

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Puff the Magic Commenter
3 years ago

I should probably figure out how to stop caring about that.

This desperately needs to be translated into Latin and emblazoned across an official flag of nerd culture.

@7: See also, Sam and Frodo.

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Ryan
3 years ago

Hey, so was it just me, or was the person in the intro who spoke to the TVA agents as they first came through the portal a digitally aged-down Kathryn Hahn?

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Tobias Carroll
3 years ago

@10 – She’s played by Kate Berlant (which now makes two The Good Place alums on this show). I also did a double-take thinking it might be Hahn, but then read a review that IDed her.

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Marcus Pitcaithly
3 years ago

So… one-shots count but the pre-Disney+ TV shows don’t? I thought they were all officially canon?

 

Marvel could still do a lot better, but TV is where queerness has lived in the MCU to date

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Leaflemming
3 years ago

I wish they’d pay lip-service to basic world-building consistency. We’ve seen Loki knock Thor down in one-on-one hand fights. If the Big Burly Human he fought in this episode was getting Asgardian strength via possession magic, then a line of dialogue acknowledging that would have been handy, because it *looked* like Loki’s been powered down to basic-human for reasons of um-we-just-couldn’t-be-bothered-dealing-with-that. 

Also, according to the TVA, Ragnarok is a level 7 apocalypse and a hurricane taking out part of one American state is a level 10. Levels 9 and 8 must climb hella steeply. 

I would care less about this stuff if the story wasn’t leaning quite so hard on stale time travel tropes. I adore the acting. Wish they’d bolster it with great writing.  

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Kait
3 years ago

@13: If the big, burly human is able to beat up Loki, it follows that he’s gotten a strength boost from the possession. No need for a line of dialogue, no break in the world-building.

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Ron
3 years ago

@@@@@ 6 you are streets ahead!

@@@@@ 7 I’d add Tony and Rhodey, Scott and Luis, off the top of my head.

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Dee
3 years ago

Regarding Loki speaking Latin, they already stated the TVA agents can speak the languages along the timeline in first episode…since Loki was with them I would assume that transferred to him.

Also recognized Bristol Ren Faire, can’t wait for it to open!!

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3 years ago

I have an idea that covers the language problem, and it’s just a handwavy idea but feel free to embrace it.

 

We know Allspeak isn’t an innate ability, Thor had to learn Groot. So my idea is the Allfather grants this ability when the person comes of age to be of service to Asgard, it could even be a spell worked into some sort of oath. Loki’s Allspeak was still working in Germany because Odin thought him dead. Loki loses the ability either when we see the Ravens circling the hilltop as Thor and Stark fight or when Thor slaps the gag on Loki at the end of the battle for Manhattan. As for Loki knowing Latin, given we see him pop into Midgard on a bet I can easily see him having popped in over the centuries to grab books. I mean, Loki laughing his ass off over “magical” texts written in the 1600s just fits so well, and they’d have been written in Latin.

Sunspear
3 years ago

This one felt a bit slow in spots. I have no issue with two characters talking for an hour if they are inherently interesting. Here, we don’t know who Mobius is yet, so Wilson’s very low key (!) energy kinda drags thing a bit. His scenes with Renslayer suggests there may be history between them. For her part, she’s not convincing in her portrayal of the Time Keepers busy in their chamber working on an orderly endpoint of time.

There may be a chance they don’t exist (never existed or no longer exist) and this is just a giant bureaucracy running on inertia. But supreme order is still supremacy. Given that Loki is in the mix, I expect a Chaos agent to derail their plans. Maybe this is Lady Loki/Enchantress; maybe it will be someone else. Marvel’s Cosmic Balance is a tug and pull between Master Order and Lord Chaos. Maybe this opens the door to other abstract entities, like Eternity and the Living Tribunal.

 

 

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Maaat
3 years ago

@9:

Probabiliter prohibere ad me instar sicco quam ut curant,

jere7my
3 years ago

My wife the classics professor was very pleased they made the effort to get the Latin right (“Dative of possession!” she crowed as he began speaking), and not at all surprised because Hiddleston studied Classics at Cambridge.

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3 years ago

I live in Wisconsin and also was all “THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE BRISTOL!” lol.  I’m glad somebody else noticed it :)

Also, the Boku made its appearance in this episode (although the scene from the trailer now also had the soda!); not sure if there’s some relevance to their obsession with the ‘artifacts’/’trinkets’ they bring back…

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3 years ago

Also! Everybody is talking about the ‘Holding Out For a Hero’ and all the places it’s shown up recently, but one of my favorites is actually a YouTube video somebody made doing a very good edit of the finale of Mandalorian that syncs up really well.  I actually can’t hear the song without thinking about it now so it kind of took me out for a moment to hear it in Loki,ha!

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3 years ago

@22, thank you, that reminds me. There was context for “I Need a Hero”, the song was part of the act that would have taken place in the tent, the Variant (covers all the bases) just hit play on the PA system. It tied in with the whole spiel about the damsel in distress and a knight riding to the rescue…it was a wonderful choice if that is indeed Lady Loki because “in distress” could never be applied and certainly not a Princess waiting to be rescued and if they’re going with Agent of Asgard at all then the knight wasn’t there to save the day. I think the choice will land more obviously on a rewatch when the show is done for the season.

Sunspear
3 years ago

Pausing the video after the reset devices go through the time doors, TVA screens and ticker tape reveal some interesting locations for proliferating nexus events:

-Vormir, location of the soul stone: we’ve seen a shot of a certain red-haired lady already in promo materials

-Asgard: will Loki bring his mommy back, or save a variant of her?

-Jotunheim: the ice runt Kid Loki

-Hala, Kree homeworld: tie in to Captain Marvel maybe?

-Xandar, home of the Nova Corps: would love to finally get a powered Nova in MCU, but not likely, or at least, not here

-Ego: Star-Lord’s daddy coming back?

Safe bet they’re just easter eggs, but the first three are more likely than the rest.

David_Goldfarb
3 years ago

Austin@2:

 Sophia Di Martino was identified in the credits as “Sylvie,” which is the name of the Enchantress. 

I haven’t seen all the Thor films, so maybe I’m missing something in the MCU; in the comics, however, the Enchantress’s real name is Amora. I can’t even think of any time when she’s used “Sylvie” as an alias.

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Mark Cook
3 years ago

@26/David_Goldfarb: Sylvie Lushton is the second Enchantress introduced in Dark Reign: Young Avengers.

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3 years ago

@25 Sakaar was on of the names as well, which may tie into either Thor: Ragnarok or the upcomint Thor movie.

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Dunedain
3 years ago

Austin @2

 

i just watched the episode credits and checked IMDb Sophia Di Martinino is identified as The Variant in both. 

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3 years ago

If they wanted to have part of the show taking place in Oshkosh WI circa 1985, instead of the Ren Faire they could’ve used the Experimental Aircraft Association’s annual airshow.  I wasn’t there in 1985, but per some quick googling, it looks like that was the year the Concorde landed there for the first time.

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Masha
3 years ago

 @26 As mentioned about Sylvie is name of super-powered teenager who took named Enchantress as one of  Young Avangers. She actually has a connection to Loki as its later revealed that her powers were given to her by Lady Loki to act as her agent of chaos. Her usual affiliation is chaotic neutral.

 

ChocolateRob
3 years ago

Maybe Allspeak only works when you know where you are, appearing suddenly in a random place maybe messes with it…

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3 years ago

@13 maybe the apocalypse levels vary according to number of sentients killed? Ragnarok seemed to have few (but it must be pointed out that we didn’t see the final numbers, it could be 9 million instead  of 9 thousand). A catastrophic hurricane could’ve killed more people in Alabama. So if it’s 100 times more people killed it’s a two order of magnitude higher apocalypse level (like the Richter scale for earthquakes).

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3 years ago

I’m waiting to see where the Lady Loki stuff goes — so far I just find it very confusing.  But, I was amused to see the MCU seemingly rip off the primary conceit from the book “New Pompeii” — i.e., that it is okay to meddle in the timeline as long as you do it right before the onset of a known extinction event. 

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3 years ago

Why not BOTH?  The Variant has Enchantresses golden blonde hair and Lady Loki’s crown from Agent of Asgard, right down to the broken left horn.  Who’s to say that the MCU has to follow Earth-616?  

It’s it’s own continuity as Earth-199999 anyway.

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Austin
3 years ago

@29 – It was in some foreign (to the US) regions.

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3 years ago

The mystery of Lady Loki/Enchantress has been more or less answered by a UK toy release. Spoiler below.

 The toy lists her as Sylvie the Enchantress.