We’re hitting the halfway mark on the season, and the word of the day is: TemPad (for some unfathomable reason).
Summary
We open with a brief flashback to the Variant talking to Agent C-20 in her mind, creating a scenario where they’re close friends as she tries to wheedle information on the Time Keepers out of her. Moving up to the end of last episode, the Variant’s portal takes her directly to the TVA, where she proceeds to dispatch agents on a journey toward an elevator that should take her to the Time Keepers. Loki emerges from the portal and follows after her once he’s retrieved his daggers. They get into a scuffle and Renslayer shows up with guards. The Variant threatens to kill Loki if they come closer, but that threat doesn’t bother Renslayer in the slightest. Loki activates the TemPad device, and drops them both into another apocalypse: Lamentis-1 in the year 2077.

Lamentis is a mining planet that is about to be obliterated by its moon crashing into it, and the TemPad is unfortunately out of power and hidden on Loki’s person. The Variant tries to get into Loki’s mind to force him to hand it over, but it doesn’t work. After an attempt to trick a woman waiting out in her home with a space gun, they learn that they can get on a train to “the Ark”—the last ship leaving the planet. The Variant knows that the ship won’t make it, and suggests using its power to get the TemPad working. The duo find that the train requires tickets, and only the rich are being allowed to board. Loki disguises himself as one of the guards, but it takes the Variant’s powers to get them on the train. They sit down in a dining car and have a chat: The Variant calls herself Sylvie, and she asks about Loki’s mother because she can’t really remember her. She claims to have taught herself magic. They talk about love, and Loki admits that while he’s had dalliances with men and women, there’s never been anything “real.”
Sylvie falls asleep, only to wake to a drunk Loki leading the dining car’s occupants in a communal Asgardian tune. He gives her a metaphor about love being like a dagger, which they both wind up unimpressed by. Unfortunately, his behavior has roused suspicion, and the guards arrive to demand their tickets. He gets thrown from the train and Sylvie follows. The TemPad is broken beyond repair due to Loki’s fall, so he suggests that they help change history and get the Ark off the ground. They get to the spaceport area as things start getting bad on the ground, and everywhere they turn is struck by meteors or covered by guards they have to fight their way through. Before they even get close, the Ark is hit by a chunk of moon and breaks in half. Loki watches the planet go to pieces around him.

Commentary
The mechanics of the episode are a downright mess, y’all. There are so many things happening just because they need to happen without any sense behind them; the fact that we’re suddenly transported to a non-Earth Apocalypse, but they couldn’t be bothered to give us some aliens; the grumpy dude on the train turning Loki in to the guards because he’s… I dunno, mad that Loki’s helping everyone have fun on their way to escape doomsday; Loki getting tossed off the train right before it reaches its destination anyhow; the absolute devotion of this random security firm who are intent on protecting rich people and their stuff as the world literally disintegrates; the fact that there are a bunch of rich citizens on a mining colony planet in the first place. Sure, there could be explanations for any one of these things, but without said explanations, they’re all sloppy machinations created to get Loki and Sylvie from Point A to Point B without any thought.

About that name for the Variant: It’s a dead giveaway from a relatively recent comics arc, and that, combined with the fact that her magic is always referred to as “enchanting,” makes it pretty darned obvious that this is Enchantress. The only real question now is how they’re going to play her connection to Loki, because there’s every chance that the MCU is intending to make their Lady Loki into the Enchantress. The comics character Sylvie Lushton was actually the second version of that character—fans of Enchantress know that the original version was named Amora, but Sylvie showed up in a Young Avengers arc after being given her powers by Loki (to help him spread chaos, like he do).
So they could be going for a relatively direct pull of that storyline, or the point could be to make some version of Loki who chooses the mantle of Enchantress. After all, she’s the one who claims that she “taught herself” magic—she could mean that in a far more literal sense. In addition, the comics version of Sylvie believed herself to be an exile of Asgard, forced to live on Earth: If it were true in this version, that would make sense of her only having the barest recollection of their mother. (She seems to get teary at parts of the Asgardian song, too.)

Speaking of which, they had a moment where they really could have highlighted Loki’s connection with Frigga—the material is all there, and incredibly pointed throughout the films—but instead choose to give him some very vague and trite lines about how she was “a queen of Asgard” and “told me I could do anything.” (You know: Just Royal Mom Things.) I know he’s keeping stuff close to the vest at that point, but this was a chance to expound upon all of the things that are visible yet rarely commented upon in the MCU films; the fact that Frigga taught Loki magic as a way to give him something unique and his own that set him apart from Thor; the fact that she’s responsible for his fighting style, which is clearly modeled after Asgard’s fallen valkyries; the fact that she showed him more affection than Thor or Odin ever did, hence their closeness; the fact that he’s still reeling from learning that he’s inadvertently caused her death. But no, let’s just say some words that could have been pulled out of any script for any show and shove them into Loki’s mouth. Fans harp on their dislike of Thor: The Dark World, but dialogue between Thor and Loki about Frigga’s death was leaps and bounds above this.
The one thing this episode does exceptionally well is let Tom Hiddleston have fun playing the part. His errors, his drunken revelry, his ridiculous “love is a dagger” metaphor that he clearly did work hard on, the moments where he is petulant and moments where he is full to the brim with childlike glee. Unfortunately, these moments of whimsy and fun punctuate the fact that this episode is engaging in one of my least favorite fiction dynamics: Man Has Fun While Woman Tsks and Rolls Her Eyes. I don’t care if she’s Loki or Enchantress or some combo of both, if we’re supposed to be convinced that these characters are in any way connected, why is she stuck being the wet blanket? Here was the chance to watch two Loki-type characters try to out-chaos each other, and instead you give us a woman telling a man well sure, I’m a hedonist too, but I’ve got a mission. What does that even mean?

It’s like somewhere along the way, culture decided that women and afab folks taking issue with sexism in fiction were just mad that they weren’t being portrayed as The Most Competent People in Every Room, and now that’s all they ever give us. And no, I don’t want that. I want to watch a woman be Loki. Why is this difficult to grasp. And again, even if the point is that she’s Enchantress, not Loki—Enchantress is never this boring on the page. Ever. We could put this down to bad writing, but if your every exchange boils down to—
Man: This is why I’m great.
Woman: You are not great, you are an idiot.
Man: Huh? But—
Woman: Ugh, just stop talking and do what I say.
—please start over.

We also have an admission from Loki to being bi/pan/omnisexual due to that conversation on that train, and while I’m very glad that they did just come out and say it, they sure did it in the safest, mealiest, easiest-to-edit-out way possible. Queer fans are accustomed to reveals like this, and it’s distressing because it gives homophobic people the ability to gloss over and reject the reveal. They’ve never seen Loki show interest in a man, so they’ll claim it doesn’t count. We can never win when it’s couched this way.
We’re obviously meant to have more questions based on what has been revealed to us in this episode, so I guess we might as well go over them. The main one is, what does Sylvie plan to do at the TVA, and is it (hopefully) more complicated than murdering the Time Keepers? And of course, why would she want to do that, or whatever her plan is? I’m sure we could come up with plenty of reasons, but we’ve been given next to no indication as to what her beef is with them. She just hates them a whole bunch. We still don’t know why she needed so many of their time-wiping cylinders and all those TemPad doorways.

The other question is less a question, and more of a gasp over the reveal that everyone at the TVA is a Variant, not created by the Time Keepers as suggested. Which makes sense, because the idea of creating that entire complex out of firmament seemed odd, even for space folks as powerful as them. The agents don’t appear know it, though, which makes the idea of Mobius recruiting Loki into his mission more interesting… because he doesn’t ostensibly know that Loki could genuinely become an agent of the TVA. And what happens when people are brought on board, anyway? Obviously their memories are suppressed or erased, but presumably they’d have to do that with everyone who came into contact with the Variant before they were absorbed into the fold. The point is, there’s weird stuff going on here, and we clearly don’t know the half of it.
So hopefully next week will finally kick things into high gear and get more interesting.
Thoughts and Asides:
- Sorry, but “TemPad” is not a good technobabble name for that instrument. Also stop calling ships leaving doomsday scenarios “The Ark” are you freaking kidding me.
- Annoyed that they didn’t center that entire episode around that cool lady protecting her homestead, she was fun.

- So… every train in an apocalypse is just the Snowpiercer, huh?
- This episode did not feature Mobius at all, which really made it clear how much the show is riding on his presence—his absence throws everything off.
- The thing about the daggers also plays into my long-standing theory on Asgardian weapons storage. It’s impossible for Loki to keep those daggers on his physical person without constantly stabbing himself. He can manifest them at will (which we see during his love metaphor bit), but they are real, physical items because he has to retrieve them from B-15’s locker. So there must be some kind of pocket dimension thingy he has constant access to in order to have his weapons on hand.
- This episode had a lot of seemingly accidental shoutouts to Doctor Who? The guards’ helmets made them look like rhinos, for one, which immediately put me in mind of the Judoon. Alas, they were not anywhere near as entertaining.

- A note on Asgardian liquor tolerance: We’re given the impression that it takes a lot of (not-human proof level) booze to get Thor drunk—he’s handing out special space stuff at the party during Age of Ultron that gets some elderly veterans wasted on a few sips. But this bar seems to just have human-style booze and Loki gets trashed. He doesn’t appear to be faking it, and perhaps he drank a lot, but even so: I’m using this to conclude that Loki is a lightweight by Asgardian standards.
- I want more Asgardian drinking songs, thank you.
See you next week!
Emmet Asher-Perrin wasn’t all that impressed with the cliffhanger either. You can bug them on Twitter, and read more of their work here and elsewhere.
Remember the old magician’s trick – make a bunch of light and noise to distract from the real activity at play. I suspect Lamentis is just as real as that tiki bar. And I’m pretty sure I caught a cameo by the Time Stone.
He’s a Frost Giant. What else can you say about him.
It’s illusion magic. They’re always on his belt, but no one sees them.
Anyone else get the heavy-handed hint of mind control? I kept waiting for the shoe to drop and reveal that everything after the mind control “attempt” was in his head. Maybe that’s how the cliff-hanger will resolve?
“Man is goof, woman is hyper competent bore” is a trope we have seen for way too long and it’s incredibly insulting to everyone. Loki drinking and dancing was so far out of character that I thought that it was an illusion, and he was the old man who left the train car. But no, they had to fall victim to such trite and tired storytelling. This entire episode felt like a waste of time.
Oh dear.. when the initial slate of Marvel TV series was first announced Loki was the one I was most looking forward to, it would be staring the brilliant Tom Hiddleston, the indisputable break out star from phase one, and my anticipation was even stronger after seeing the the first two TV series that launched phase 4 particularly the brilliant Wanda Vision.. and the first episode of Loki I thought was promising, however I found episode 2 a big disappointment and I am afraid episode 3 has taken an even bigger step downwards… this was poor stuff it reminded me a really bad Doctor Who episode.
Hiddleston knows this role inside out but he is being given some really bad material here, the train bar scene was completely cringe inducing, I thought when he got thrown out the window and broke the Tempad this was some sort of illusion.. but no he really was being an idiot..
and then we have Sylvie…now Sophia Di Martino I have seen in a number of light dramas in the U.K. and she’s perfectly fine in them.. but I am not sure if she has been cast correctly in this role, she just does not scream out to me “cunning villain” maybe I’m being unfair and it’s the material she’s been given (and if Hiddleston is struggling with the material here then that may well have some truth) but I can’t help but wonder what someone like Jodie Comer might have done with this role.
I like to give these things at their conclusion a mark out of 10 and with Wanda Vision I gave a 9, Falcon and the Winter soldier despite a mid season wobble I gave a 7…. But unless Loki picks up markedly in the final three episodes this is heading for a 5 from me… at best.
I agree that Sylvie isn’t being allowed to be Loki in any real or fun way, and it seems like a really bad sign for this show’s understanding of *why we’re watching it*. That said, my glass on the bi reveal is definitely half-full & happy.
I agree with @3 that everything after Sylvie’s mind control “attempt” may very well be going on in Loki’s mind; equally, everything after Sylvie fell asleep may very well be going on in *her* mind. If neither of these is the case, then I fail to understand why the TVA wasn’t all over them seconds after they reached Lamentis — since “check every apocalypse til you find them” is only an impossible task for people who can’t travel through time.
I figured the point of setting off all the time explosions was to create a distraction that the TVA couldn’t afford to ignore, so Sylvie would have a relatively clear opportunity to get to the Time Keepers. Although exactly what simultaneity is supposed to mean to entities who exist outside of “normal” time is a good question that doesn’t seem likely to get a good answer.
It really did feel like Loki(s) got dropped into a Doctor Who episode, for better or for worse.
Thank you for articulating what kind of felt a bit flat about the episode – I was decently entertained (but kept wishing we were back at the TVA) but the ‘snarky guy and girl try to out snark each other in between moments of vulnerability’ just felt kind of…tired.
There may still be a bigger twist set up here (or maybe Mobius will find them there) though, or some type of misdirection.
Hm…I actually don’t see snarky guy and girl try to out snark each other; Sylvie is not enough of a mirror image of Loki for that to work. Actually I really don’t see that much of Loki in Sylvie at all, and that makes it way less fun and way less of a story for Lori Laufeyson (and Loki not having mastered enchantment seems…off to me)
Oh, and one other thing I did like was seeing Sylvie use her powers in the beginning – that was much more interesting.
Which does make the possibility of most of the episode being in Loki’s head an interesting idea (or, perhaps the TemPad was always fine and Loki was tricking her).
I just want the scene where Sylvie smugly tells Loki this was an illusion all along, followed by Loki telling her he knew that and was just going along with it and telling her sad stories to try and manipulate her, followed by her saying she knew he was doing that because he couldn’t get that drunk on human liquor, followed by him saying he knew she wouldn’t fall for that but it was a distraction for something else, etc, etc. These two could be worth a couple dozen levels of “I knew you knew I knew you knew I knew BUT you didn’t know I knew you knew I knew you knew I knew you knew.”
If Loki was trying to manipulate her, he wouldn’t say anything too real about Frigga. He’s not giving that stuff to someone he’s just using.
And, if he knows he’s in her illusion or suspects she’s not a variant, he’s not going to give her anything she could use against him.
Although, if he believes she’s a variant, it might throw a different light on how he’s acting. Getting drunk and singing Asgardian drinking songs is something Thor would do, and Loki knows exactly how he feels about that.
Which suggests Sylvie either isn’t a Loki variant or she didn’t grow up in Asgard. She shows none of the basic social skills Loki has–like the ability to hang out with a large number of people who are singing and drinking without giving away the fact that root canal without pain killer is higher up on your list of fun ways to spend an evening.
I find it funny that no one thinks this episode was mostly an enchantment after that lengthy interlude on how enchantments work and us even seeing the dreamlike state of an enchantment on the TVA agent.
@5 it’s funny but my ranking is actually the opposite.
WandaVision 5/10
Falcon and the Winter Soldier 7/10
Loki 9/10
So far I’m just upset at the implication that Agents of SHIELD’s timelines might have been pruned =/
If you take out the overly long fighting scenes, what remains is basically a 30 minute Dr. Who episode.
What I understood from the Roxxcart episode was that those were what she used to bomb the ‘sacred timeline’ causing alternate timelines to start sprouting off it up and down the time line with the attention of the TVA diverted to the resultant alarms and heavy diversion of troops to repair things reducing the security she’d have to face.
@14 I’ve pretty much liked all of the Marvel shows to date, but they are all clearly intended to take advantage of a longer form to explore characters in a way you can’t even in a Character movie (Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, etc.).
Now you might say, then explore character better, but most of the gripes I’ve seen thus far boil down to, “It’s not like *I* think it should be,” rather than “It’s objectively bad.”
For example, Sylvie Laufeysdottir shows clear signs of Frigga having died earlier than in the “sacred” timeline and fleeing Asgard because, in the immortal words of my daughter (6 at the time), “That Odin was kind of an asshole.” Yeah, she’s NOT playful. For some reason.
These are Variants, different versions of the same chartacter. And some versions of Loki, by circumstance, are more dour. I don’t think that makes her not-Loki. I think it makes a more mean spirited schemer than our Loki is.
I will agree with Emmet about THIS: “serious ass woman is serious ass and man-child is ridiculous” as a trope is played out, and I agree that it was an overreaction to “You don’t let women be competant,” as a complaint. But that’s the thing. It’s an overreaction. At some point it’ll level out a bit, but development cycles are three plus years long…it becomes glaringly obvious NOW, it’ll keep happening for another two years minimum, not because studios don’t care, but because that’s how long it takes to flush through the system.
If that’s all the security the Timekeepers have, they might want to think about beefing that up…
I agree with @6 this whole episode’s vibe sounds like an illusion, especially both Loki and Sylvie behaving and failing so uninspiringly. The scene before credits is a dead giveaway, there is no other reason of having this scene!
The only question who controls the illusion, one of them, both of them or 3rd party?
Immediately after Sylvie’s attempt to mind control Loki, first meteor struck, does it mean whole Lamentis scenario is her idea?
Did Loki grabbed control while she was sleeping on a train and then they immediately gotten thrown out of train and TemPad was destroyed?
Or someone already controlled it when their TemPad appeared to be low on battery from very beginning?
Otherwise this whole episode is not characteristic of Loki and is a miss.
Here’s something that I don’t think anyone has brought up yet: If we are to believe what the show is telling us, there is no such thing as an “alternate timeline Loki”.
There is only one “sacred timeline”. So if the variant is Lady Loki, that means she is the same version of Loki as our main character, only pulled out of the timeline sometime in the past. Because, again, there is only one timeline. And she can’t be from Loki’s future, since we know what happens to him from the point he is pulled out of the timeline by the TVA until his death.
So all this talk about her not knowing her mother, or not being Asgardian, etc., doesn’t actually make sense, because our Loki was removed from the timeline like 5 minutes after he became a variant. So her life would have to be the exact same as our Loki’s, up to the point that she became a variant and was removed from the timeline.
So here are the options as I see them:
1. She isn’t Loki at all,
2. The timeline doesn’t work like the show it telling us it does,
Or
3. She was pulled out of the timeline when she was very young and somehow kept hidden, and all of these differences took place while she was a variant.
@17 Your daughter is awesome.
Well, I found turning Wanda into a villain leaving a bad taste in my mouth. If they aren’t gunning for that, then the MCU is doubling-down on the lack of consequences that has been escalating since Civil War (with Wanda no less). I also found Sam Wilson’s preaching to the TV and upholding the status quo (my main gripe with Korra) also very irritating. The Flagsmashers were done dirty. Sharon Carter’s turn makes no sense. Why is Bucky still the Winter Soldier? Yes, characters are being developed, but their development is shallow or boring.
As for the Serious Woman and Goofy Man, well, our Loki is fresh out of The Avengers. He hasn’t got his Development yet, while Sylvie is clearly the more mature between them, having had been orphaned at a young age and told of her true lineage (almost as if to alienate her deliberately), and clearly on the run. Personally I did not find her to be the tut-tut-ing mother hen cramping Loki’s style. I thought she was a level-headed, highly competent badass with an interesting backstory.
@20 I like what you say.
I am now wondering if the hostile reactions I’m seeing here are a cultural difference between British and American ideas of what episodic TV drama is. If WandaVision is a knowing homage to American TV history, I’m getting a lot of love for multiple SF franchises sublimated into Loki. Yes, Doctor Who, but also Bladerunner, Alien and 2001, not to mention Killing Eve. This is a pocket episode, but that is a way to explore the characters more. There is a class subtext that the combination of a British director with two British actors are able to do with a lot of nuance. Loki has been able to coast on his charm and poshness, but Sylvie hasn’t had that safety net and can see through it.
@22 it’s an interesting theory Kevin but I’m British and I thought this episode stank the place out I also loved Wanda Vision.
This was a boring episode, not because it was obviously created for character development, but because they didn’t do any character development. There was no chemistry between the actors. The dialogue was all over the place. The actress playing Sylvie was absolutely the wrong choice for that role, and then they gave her nothing interesting to do. Dull, dull, dull. That to me is the ultimate sin for Loki.
@chadefallstar: I don’t fault Di Martino’s acting or characterization; it’s in the concept and script. She doesn’t strike me as a Loki at all. Jodie Comer would’ve come across better as a female Loki; or my preference: Phoebe Waller-Bridge.
I’m starting to think that Sophie may be a variant Frigga. The way she looked down as Loki was talking about his mother… her power set fits; she’s not originally an Asgardian, just by marriage to Odin.
Agree with those who made Doctor Who comparisons: the plot is essentially to invent roadblocks as they run a lot. The blatant shout that only rich folks are getting on the train is silly. They don’t understand this till the last few hours? Why the wealthy are living on a mining moon (it’s the planet it orbits that’s exploding) makes little sense. And they wouldn’t have they own private yachts/rockets in which to flee? Last season of The Expanse handled this idea more intelligently.
As noted elsewhere (I didn’t remember the connection): Lamentis is a one off planet that breaks apart at the beginning of the Annihilation storyline in the comics. This makes this story Guardians of the Galaxy adjacent; also, another possible Nova tease. Maybe this whole plot would’ve worked better if the Nova Corps were evacuating the moon. Generic security police enforcing death sentences (including their own) wasn’t well thought out.