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30 Years Later, Real Genius is Still the Geek Solidarity Film That Nerd Culture Deserves

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30 Years Later, Real Genius is Still the Geek Solidarity Film That Nerd Culture Deserves

An examination of the greatest geek campus comedy ever, Real Genius, and why it still holds up better than most college films 30 years on.

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Published on May 21, 2015

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It’s interesting to me that Revenge of the Nerds, while still full up of the nostalgia that the 80s lends us, is lately being repositioned in the zeitgeist. What was viewed for many years as a bit of harmless fun that waved the banner for nerds everywhere is finally being called out for exactly what it is; an Us vs Them revenge fest that never lets go of racism or misogyny, and damages the image of geek culture more than it applauds for it. That shouldn’t be surprising—RotN was always just a frat house comedy with a thin nerdy gloss applied to it. And that’s fine with me, because that was never my go-to movie for feeling the geeky solidarity.

No, my friends. That movie was Real Genius.

Real Genius was loosely (very very very loosely) inspired by actual events that took place when university students were working to crack laser technology. But in Real Genius, this is being done on the fictional Pacific Tech campus, where the students are unknowingly creating that laser for the CIA to use in government sanctioned hits from space. They don’t know this because their odious professor, Dr. Hathaway (played to a tee by William Atherton), obviously isn’t letting them in on the secret. He’s too busy skimming off the funds that the government is providing to the project, so he can renovate his house.

Real Genius, Mitch Taylor

Our protagonist is fifteen-year-old Mitch Taylor (Gabriel Jarrett), who is accepted early to Pacific Tech because, well, he’s a genius. He’s assigned to the laser project, working with his new roommate Chris Knight (Val Kilmer), a senior at the school who appears to have given up on taking college all that seriously. So… burnt out upper classman plus eager-to-please, impressionable freshman? We’re already set up for some prime Odd Couple shenanigans. We’re introduced to a guy named Kent and his cronies, who are also working on the laser project. Unlike Chris, Kent is the ultimate sycophant and only too happy to throw other students under the bus provided he gets to be top dog. So now we have a rivalry. Mitch meets a lot of strange people at Pacific Tech, one of them being Jordan, one of the campus’ few women who happens to size Mitch up and make him a sweater the day after meeting him, which she excitedly presents to him in men’s room while he’s peeing. So now we have a love story.

And… that’s pretty much where the comparisons to most college flicks and Real Genius ends. Because the film is about a lot more than that, for all it is a very 80s campus comedy. For one, the movie is better at portraying geeks in ways that don’t just melt down to old tropes of pocket protectors and bow ties and awkwardness. It communicates that having an outrageous IQ can be isolating, but doesn’t make all smart people out to be socially undeveloped shut-ins. It also shows us how being driven toward answers can blind even the most optimistic, well-meaning folks into making terrible mistakes. And it communicates what it’s like to study for finals more realistically than any film I’ve ever seen, which is an accomplishment and a half.

Real Genius, Chris Knight, Val Kilmer

No really, there’s a scene where everyone is gathered around a communal table to cram for the exam, and one guy just gets up and starts screaming at everyone before running from the building. Everyone else is unresponsive and some other dude sitting on the room’s perimeter moves into his vacated seat without comment. That’s basically the experience distilled into its purest form.

Also, did I mention that it ends on a Tears For Fears song? Because that should be enough to recommend it right there.

Real Genius, 1985

Another great thing about this film is how it doesn’t couch itself in the “nerd versus jock” dynamic. It’s a boring cliche that rarely bothers to examine the realities of persecution due to differences. Instead, it herds people into group stereotypes and activity negates character complexity. Real Genius knows this, and most of the rivalry here is geek-on-geek. We watch the very real dynamic of people in the same social circle trying to one-up each other to gain status, stroke their own egos, or flat out cause trouble for fun. When we reach the “party with hot girls” part of the film that so many college movies unthinkingly provide, the narrative beelines away from any form of non-consensual action; the party is full of student beauticians who are keen to meet some boys, and when the guys from Pacific Tech balk at having to talk to them, Chris Knight points out that they might try using their brains to impress them. The most uncomfortable person at the party is not any of the female attendants, but Mitch… understandable because he’s fifteen and this is probably the highest concentration of bikinis he’s ever witnessed. He finally starts having fun when he realizes that Jordan is there, testing scuba equipment in the pool.

The virtually opposing approaches to life that Mitch and Chris represent is the focal point of the tale, the paragon of straight-laced nerd-dom juxtaposed with the free-wheeling, frenetic creativity that Knight gears his mind toward. Mitch is distraught by the fact that a student he’d previously idolized appears to be nothing more than another party-hard slacker who doesn’t seem to care one bit about their work they’re doing. It’s not until later that he finds out this attitude is new; Chris was once just like Mitch, but he relaxed into this new mindset when he followed a man into their dorm room closet. (I swear that’s not a metaphor.) That man—Lazlo Hollyfeld—was a big shot student at Pacific Tech in the decade previous, who went a little out of his mind when he found out that his inventions were being used to harm others. Seeing this, Chris realized that spending his life focused on work for work’s sake was a mistake.

Real Genius, Dr. Hathaway, William Atherton

Unfortunately, Knight’s new groove is making it harder for Dr. Hathaway to meet his laser deadline, so the professor decides to spitefully ruin Chris’ life—giving Kent the post-school job he was already promised and flunking him out of the Pacific Tech program, preventing him from graduating. With a little pep talk from Mitch, Chris throws himself back into their project and makes real headway on the laser just to prove Hathaway wrong. It’s only after they deliver it to Hathaway that Lazlo leaves the steam tunnels below their closet and points out that what they created was likely intended for a very specific purpose—to kill people. From space. From that point on, the crew is on the clock to ruin the laser’s presentation for the military and CIA and to get even with Dr. Hathaway for using them. (Also to prank Kent because he kind of deserves it for being a lapdog and generally horrible to Mitch just because the kid is younger and smarter than he is.)

The film makes it a mission to prove that what geeks and geniuses are best at isn’t memorizing math formulas and elements off the periodic table; it’s their ability to be creative and in doing so, change the world around us. The students do get even with Dr. Hathaway, but they do it in an inspired way that essentially harms no one except him—they redirect the laser so it goes off at his home, where they’ve situated a giant ball of unpopped popcorn. Ka-blooey. Essentially, they destroy the thing that Hathaway was siphoning money off of the laser program to gain, his fancy house. It makes the project seem like a bust, effectively ruins Hathaway, and punishes him for being dishonest. As revenge schemes go, it’s a remarkably fair-minded one that’s fun to boot. And it’s not about proving their superiority over another group, but instead about taking back control over what they’ve created.

Real Genius, popcorn house

The film doesn’t showcase as many women as we might hope for (and the Pacific Tech campus is also blindingly white overall, though Chris’ friend Ikagami is present and happily avoids most of your average Asian stereotypes aside from smartness), but the way it treats the majority of those women is impressive, particularly for this era in filmmaking… no doubt largely due to the movie’s female director, Martha Coolidge. There are few instances of pure objectification just for the sake of it in Real Genius; even though the co-ed party shows plenty of girls in swimsuits, the shots that reveal them are often at a distance, never lingering. While Knight is blunt in his sexual overtures to women, the ones he encounters are more than capable of tackling his advances and throwing them back in his face when he’s not up to snuff. His directness gives him no power, which is extremely important because it indicates that not every woman is automatically going to swoon over that kind of come-on. (Which, in turn, suggests that women are real, unique individuals with different preferences.) And when they aren’t interested, Chris is never entitled or angry about it—he simply moves on.

I really can’t talk about women in this film without focusing up on Jordan Cochran. While she does occupy a typically female place in the plot (Mitch’s love interest), her portrayal by Michelle Meyrink is nothing short of revelatory when it comes to broadening the variety of women that we should expect in fiction. To start, Jordan is not a conventionally attractive girl, certainly not in a California/feature film sense. She has a weird haircut and a child-like cadence to her voice, and she’s not particularly fashionable. It’s also entirely possible for this character to read somewhere on the autistic spectrum, though by way of a Hollywoodified lens; she is uncertain of common boundaries (visiting Mitch in the bathroom and being perturbed by his inability to pee in front of her), she has severe insomnia (it’s suggested that she drove her roommate to a nervous breakdown by never ever sleeping), she misunderstands the social cues of others (she frequently assumes the ends of Mitch’s sentences incorrectly), and her idea of what constitutes an everyday activity would hardly pass for your average citizen (Mitch finds her sanding her dorm room floor late one night and she uses the beautician party as an excuse to test a rebreather she designed herself). It’s not the fact that she might be on the spectrum itself that’s remarkable, but the fact that the film never suggests that Jordan should be viewed differently because of it. It doesn’t make her “special” in a manic pixie dream way, but it doesn’t make her pitiable either. She’s simply who she is, and that person is still portrayed as desirable and engaging and brilliant.

Real Genius, Jordan Cochran

It helps that she’s very much her own kind of genius. Jordan makes most of her own equipment, clearly comfortable with a variety of tools and practical materials. She isn’t involved in the laser project whatsoever—in fact, we’re never told what Jordan is at Pacific Tech to do aside from being some sort of eclectic savant who cares about sled velocity on ice and the smoothness of her floors. She comes off as a kind of mad scientist, probably the sort of person to invent a few hundred incredibly useful patents throughout the course of her life and hopefully retire rich with a giant lab/workshop in her basement where she can create gorgeous metalwork in peace. Prior to Real Genius, Meyrink appeared in Revenge of the Nerds as one of the members of Omega Mu, the nerd girl sorority. In that movie, she and her Greek sisters were figures to be laughed at. Here, she is an odd force to be reckoned with. There is simply no comparison; one of these characters is inspirational to young women, and the other is decidedly not. In the end, Jordan’s status as Mitch’s girlfriend has very little to do with her place in the story (outside of letting her meet these characters and form friendships with them), an effective 180 from her position as Gilbert’s love interest in Revenge of the Nerds. Jordan is a heroic character in Real Genius, whereas Judy is largely a trophy for the (male) hero in RotN.

What’s also impressive about Real Genius is that it allows its focal character, Mitch Taylor, to be as young as he is, with all the embarrassment and strangeness that being fifteen entails. Mitch calls his parents crying because college isn’t working out the way he’d prefer, and he begs to come home. Mitch is cornered alone by an older, more experienced woman who clearly wants to teach him “the ways of the world,” but he runs from the scenario, owning up to his discomfort and knowing that he’d rather be with Jordan.  The film never makes fun of Mitch for being less advanced than his peers or a perceived “square,” never sniggers at him for being the straight-laced one who cares about his work. It’s never suggested that he should simply play along, act older, learn to enjoy things that don’t interest him. Chris Knight has to convince him to loosen up by presenting real, hard data on why sticking too hard to the work might hurt him in the long run. And even then, Mitch doesn’t become a mini version of his mentor—he simply takes Knight’s advice to heart and figures out what his own version of relaxed is.

Real Genius, Mitch Taylor, Chris Knight

Rather than placing geeks on someone else’s playground, forcing them into an opposing socially-constructed box and proving that they can “play the game” better than everyone else by virtue of being smarter, Real Genius shows that nerds have their own games. They don’t need to run faster or get more pledges or give themselves makeovers to have fun and prove their worth. Mitch wakes up to a hall full of ice one morning; Ikagami has somehow created a gas that turns into the slippery stuff, and then back into a gas after a few hours. Chris hails the accomplishment as “Pacific Tech’s: Smart People on Ice!” The walls of the dorms are covered in strange graffiti, people shuffle back and forth between common areas and rooms in their weird-looking pajamas and towels. Knight has appointed himself as the dorm resident in charge of fun, trying to get people away from their books with “Mutant Hamster Races” and “Madame Curie Lookalike Contests.” In short, it’s like any other college campus, complete with overworked students. Nerds are not a rare and exotic breed of people, but they do make some awesome stuff, and that’s why they make for good movie plots.

It also helps that Real Genius might be one of the most quotable films on the planet. Even Joss Whedon would cry at how snappy the dialogue is, which is recommendation enough over most college movies where dialogue can be horrifically contrived. Chris Knight is the primary conduit of said snappiness, and you have to wonder how many of Kilmer’s lines are ad-libbed, because it seems like it might be a lot of them. It’s encouraging to have a character who at the start appears to be such a parody of himself—the super-smart-guy-who-can-also-be-a-jerk-because-he’s-good-looking-and-snarky—turn out to be a genuinely decent person who cares about people. And he proves that by changing his tactics with others; when he realizes that Mitch is not responding to devil-may-care antics, he quits the act and explains his reasons for exhibiting rather extreme senioritis. It comes clear very quickly that his primary reason for asking Dr. Hathaway to make Mitch his roommate is to make certain that Mitch doesn’t make his (or Lazlo’s) mistakes. Without realizing that they’re already being lured into the same gambit that snagged Lazlo years ago, Chris is already trying to provide Mitch with the tools he needs to avoid the scenario. He may be a cynic, as he says, but he’s inciting campus rowdiness to protect everyone’s health and expand their horizons, not to encourage them to blow their educations.

Real Genius, Chris Knight, why do I bother gif

In that way, Real Genius occupies an interesting middle ground in how it portrays education for a film that’s all about brainy, bookish people. It’s not suggesting that going to college should be one long non-stop alcohol-fueled party haze, but it’s also not suggesting that what you learn at a higher education facility is the only valuable knowledge you will ever absorb. Life experience is shown to be equally (or even more) valuable. And while it can be easier to retreat into books when you’re a certain kind of person, the tale cautions that it’s important to stay aware of the world around you–otherwise you might miss when you’re being taken advantage of. For a film that’s already 30 years old, the wisdom it displays is universal; value your emotional development as much as your intellectual development; use your abilities to improve the world; question authority; definitely don’t make dangerous weapons for your college professors.

So you can keep Revenge of the Nerds, if that’s your thing, and all the other films of its ilk. They do a fairly poor job of committing the experience of social outsiders to memory. For a film that offers a chance to laugh with people rather than at them, to appreciate what college truly teaches most of us, to embrace what’s really fun about being an unabashed geek, I’d recommend Real Genius every single time.

Gif from Panda Whale.

Emmet Asher-Perrin was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said: “…I drank what?” You can bug her on Twitter and Tumblr, and read more of her work here and elsewhere.

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Paul Weimer
9 years ago

Jordan is a heroic character in Real Genius, whereas Judy is largely a trophy for the (male) hero in RotN.

 

 

Jordan is awesome. Real Genius could have stood to have more female characters, but Jordan is awesome. I *loved* the bathroom scene with Mitch.

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9 years ago

William Atherton is the 80’s bad guy 

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DaveMB
9 years ago

An excellent review, and your main point about the difference between the two films is very well taken.  A grad school roommate of mine was an undergrad at Caltech at that time, and told me that the movie basically got the atmosphere correct.  Unlike RotNReal Genius was in part intended to show what super-smart students were really like, and they did a lot of research on the Caltech campus to find out.

One product of this was the ubiquity of the acronym “DEI” in the film — at the real Caltech of the time, DEI stood for “Dabney Eats It”, Dabney being one of the dorms.

 

DemetriosX
9 years ago

A terrific article about a terrific movie. It is awfully short on female characters, though. Other than Jordan the only major character I can remember is the traditionally hot girl who is clearly sleeping her way to a degree with the professor. It’s an unfortunate characterization, but she also manages to put Chris in his place at least once.

The lack of women on campus is slightly exaggerated, but nevertheless representative of elite technical schools like Caltech or MIT in the early 80s. The lack of non-Asian minorities probably is, too.

I’d forgotten Lazlo. I wonder how much he influenced a number of characters, from Richmond in The IT Crowd to the guy in Scalzi’s Redshirts (whose name escapes me at the moment) who retreated into the service tunnels to avoid the Narrative.

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9 years ago

This film is the reason why anytime someone complains that they don’t like popcorn, I start singing “Everybody wants to rule the world”. Now I’m gonna have to look for this DVD the next time I’m at BestBuy.

(Why is Val Kilmer’s character sometimes referred in this review as Chris and other times as Knight? It seemed a bit odd to me.)

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9 years ago

This is still by far one of my favorite movies. RotN is meh to me, and always has been. Great take on this fun film. 

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dwndrgn
9 years ago

One of my favorite movies. Val Kilmer made another movie around the same time that I also loved, Top Secret. Now I want to watch both of them again!

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Saavik
9 years ago

I keep a list of movies which include a feminist-friendly heterosexual romance where the woman is attracted to the man for reasons other than sheer hunkiness and power to rescue or dominate, and the man is attracted to the woman for reasons other than sheer gorgeousness and dependency on him. They are each attracted to the other for their strengths: compassion, humor, intelligence, creativity, courage, loyalty, etc. This is what some feminists have referred to as “the eroticization of equality.”

This is a sadly short list, though I have watched about 1500 movies in my life. Real Genius is on that short list.

(The Bechdel Test was never intended to be the only and definitive measure of a movie’s feminist cred….)

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Tim Avers
9 years ago

Caltech students were used as archetypes according to a friend or mine who dated the “real” Jordan. I’ve been very disappointed that there is no steam on a remaster.

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Benjamin
9 years ago

Thank you for putting into an (excellent) essay why I’ve loved this movie every since middle school.  :)

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9 years ago

Growing up we had a copy of this movie on Betamax, and I’d keep that old betamax player hooked up just so I could watch this movie for years after we finally joined the rest of the world with one of those fancy VHS players.  I love this movie! I think I still have the DVD I never returned to Netflix, too…

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smee
9 years ago

I went to an engineering school in the 80s.  The undergrad classes were only 20% female.  Having Jordan as the only major female character doesn’t feel that out of place to me.

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9 years ago

One of my all time top five favorites and IMO, Val Kilmer’s greatest role. Yes it’s short on women but the few we get are pretty amazing.

 

“Can you hammer a six inch spike through a board with your penis?”

 

“Not right now.”

 

“A girl’s gotta have her standards.”

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Matt
9 years ago

“It was hot. And I was hungry.”

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JasonD
9 years ago

Honestly, I have never seen the “manic pixie dream girl” as a bad thing. Lazy storytelling, maybe, but the fact of the matter is that type of person does exist. I had one in my life for a while. Films and stories only cover a small segment of life in most cases, and a person’s role can change in life many times over, but we would not see that in a film unless it spanned a large amount of narrative time. The “manic pixie dream girl” tends not to stay that way for long, as having that sort of attitude for an extended period of time can lead to severe burnout and becoming highly jaded. The attitude can even be something of a temporary defense mechanism. Let us also not forget that plenty of people are looking for someone to save, and the “manic pixie dream girl” is just the other side of a coin that contains the “white knight on a horse.” I only say this because I feel that inclusion of either of these character types should be an automatic ding against a story. If the essence of feminism is equality and agency and freedom of choice, then wouldn’t a woman being able to say “I have all these options and I choose to be a manic pixie dream girl for this guy going through a rough time” still be an expression of feminism? Or is it only feminism under certain circumstances?

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9 years ago

Emily, I haven’t even finished this, but I’m going to marry this article and knit it sweaters and drive off into the sunset with an RV with it!  IT’S PURRFECT

(Sidenote: Are you reading Unbeatable Squirrel Girl?  Because you SHOULD TOTALITARILY be reading Unbeatable Squirrel Girl!)

Also, I had NO IDEA that Jordan was Judy! 

Braid_Tug
9 years ago

With all the lazy story telling going around in Hollywood, I would be scared of them making a new movie like this.  It would somehow become more like RotN.

But I do love this movie.

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9 years ago

@13 – Ha! I’d forgotten that line comes from this movie. That one’s a real classic.

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9 years ago

, There is also the Air Force Lady who runs of with Lazlo!

@7, Top Secret is so superior to it’s knock offs like Hot Shots

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Ragnarredbeard
9 years ago

I don’t enjoy being the bearer of bad news, but  . . .

http://screenrant.com/real-genius-nbc-tv-show-remake/

<Captain Kirk, scene from STWOK>  NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

 

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Boa Fukashima
9 years ago

Great article! I’m a child of the 80’s and Real Genius showed me its cool to be geeky and different. Plus Val Kilmer rocks in this film! 

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Null-I
9 years ago

Sounds like a lovely movie, and it was certainly a lovely review.

Now if only in real life the people who invented the drones now used for assassinations had reconsidered, too.

 

 

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Dirtycelt
9 years ago

Real Genius is one of those movies from my childhood that I’m compelled to watch every time I run across it. (I may have a slight crush on Jordan.) In fact I stumbled across it late last night and was up until 2am watching it. Thanks for the great article Emily! 

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9 years ago

“I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates when he said ‘I drank what?'”

This was our smart ass answer whenever an adult said “What were you thinking?”  Good times.

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9 years ago

Based off this review alone…just added this movie to my Amazon shopping cart.  Thanks, Emily – and to all the rest of you for your comments that made me realise I needed to see this posthaste.

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Ron
9 years ago

For some of the real-life CalTech antecedents referenced in the film, check out http://alumnus.caltech.edu/~erich/real_genius_refs.html

Ron Avitzur

Pacific Tech

Jason_UmmaMacabre
9 years ago

Great look back at a great movie. I will take this over just about every other 80s comedy. For some inexplicable reason, this is not in my collection at the moment. I shall have to rectify that!

” I guess we’ll hammer later!”

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Chris L
9 years ago

Another child of the 80’s, and this is my go-to movie when I have a hankering for an 80’s teen comedy.  One of my absolute favorites, and I was pleasantly surprised when I saw this review today :)  Of course, now I’ll have to pop in the DVD when I get home.

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Paul
9 years ago

“never lets go of racism or misogyny, and damages the image of geek culture more than it applauds for it”

Like the Big Bang Theory?

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9 years ago

I, too, love this movie. It hit all the right points for me – I was fairly close to Mitch’s age when I saw it, and identified with him a *lot*.

I think you’re referring to Susan Decker, whose character wasn’t sleeping her way to a degree – she shows up as the daughter of one of the CIA dudes who is funding the eeeeevil professor’s project.

Here’s the clip. I loved how she was just so not affected by Chris Knight’s BS.

http://movieclips.com/Zf5G-real-genius-movie-a-very-smart-girl/

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Paul
9 years ago

Did you know that the soundtrack for this movie was never “officially” released? Some of the best songs, The Comsat Angels’ “I’m Falling” and Chas Jankel’s “Number One” from the studying montages, are really REALLY hard to find. Some guys compiled an unofficial soundtrack online a couple of years ago. Google it.

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9 years ago

LOVE this movie, it’s always been one of my favorites.  I watched it again about a year ago and it finally clicked with me why the banter is so good: Val Kilmer basically treats the whole world like a Marx Brothers movie, and he’s Groucho.  He punctures the stuffy authority figures, deadpans ridiculous wordplay, and is completely unflappable.  And as the article notes, the writing is good enough that the dialogue is up to that same standard.

An awful lot is accomplished by montage though, I think there are at least three of them.  But it’s like a Star Trek episode–the technological problem isn’t what the story is about, it’s just the spine that the real story is built on.

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arhcadia
9 years ago

Ok, psst!!!

Thx for the nostalgic trip! Was definitely one of my first “favourite” movies in high school. I think i aspired to BE jordan. And i have spent the ensuing years signalling that the coast is clear with “ok, psst!”

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Ari Braginsky
9 years ago

Probably my favorite film overall that I watch at least once a year.  Nice writeup, thanks!

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Amanda Fox
9 years ago

My husband shared this article with me because he knows how much I love this movie (I remember watching it as a small child over and over and over again – I pretty much spent my my teen years searching for a Chris Knight).

I just want to say two things: (1) You list all the reasons I love this movie, and you explain why it’s a great alternative to the typical nerd movie (or, honestly, to the typical movie). (2) Can we be friends?

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FilmBuffRich
9 years ago

Don’t feel too bad for the guy who freaks out in the studying montage… That’s Dean Devlin, who went on to a pretty successful directing career. :)

@20 – Among the gems of the Sony hack from November is a seven-page pitch document for the proposed TV series that is just awful. I think this one is dead.

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9 years ago

Thank you for this awesome love letter to a movie I adore.  I think I was in late junior high when I first saw this, and from then on I wanted so badly for college to turn out like its depiction in Real Genius (complete with soundtrack).  It didn’t, but that’s probably for the best.

A few years ago, Val Kilmer walked past me in a tiny airport, and we accidentally made eye contact for a split second.  I turned to my friend and said, “Do you know who that was?  That was CHRIS KNIGHT!” 

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9 years ago

You know, um, something strange happened to me this morning…

Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you?

No…

Why am I the only one who has that dream?

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Lance Mountain
9 years ago

Loved this movie when I saw it as a kid. I was also an avid skateboarder and big fan of the Bones Brigade at the time so I was rather surprised to see Stacey Peralta listed as the “shuttle pilot” in the credits. I had to rewind the VHS and confirm. Sure enough, it’s the same guy who would go on to direct Dogtown and Z-boys. One more reason this movie rules.

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Shanna Swendson
9 years ago

This movie was a favorite for movie night on our dorm floor in college during the late 80s. We were the honors floor, which basically meant we were the nerd floor, and although I don’t think any of us were working on technology with military applications and we had a mix of engineering, sciences, and liberal arts types (and more women), there was a lot about the people in the movie and their relationships that resonated with us. We didn’t go ice skating in the hall, but we did make it “snow” once (with paper). Probably my favorite movie about nerds, and one of the few I actually relate to.

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Greg Williams
9 years ago

As I was in high school during the early 80’s, this film was sort of a thematic anthem for me.  Jordon was my ideal (and, for the most part, still is) woman and partner. 

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Anne D.
9 years ago

Thank you for an excellent write-up of a hugely underrated gem.  I’ve long said that Real Genius was one of the defining films of the 1980s but I never considered what a cornerstone of geek culture it is until now. Sad to say, it flies way under the radar even among us geeks.

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Heather
9 years ago

I got to Caltech in the mid-90s, and this movie was shown at many events there as a fictionalized depiction of Tech. One woman in my freshman class could have BEEN Jordan, she so reminded me of that character – same energy and manner of speaking. So much about that movie was based on Caltech (DEI, Decompression, the steam tunnels, the pranks, etc.) that it’s not surprising to have met people that could have walked off the set of Real Genius. Good memories!

It was still 75% male even among the undergrads at that time, so the gender ratio seemed right as well. Things have changed since then, and I hear that the ratio at Caltech is approaching parity now.

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9 years ago

Great review!

I still haven’t actually seen this entire movie though. I always seemed to turn on the tv to find it on just before the popcorn part. I have on other occasions seen parts of it at other places in the middle, but I still have yet to see the beginning.

But I always think of this movie as “That other Val Kilmer movie I know of besides Willow and Batman Forever.”

 

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jimf
9 years ago

I agree…a great movie, definitely superior to RoTN.  and don’t forget Severn Darden’s great supporting character…(you may remember his role in The President’s Anaylyst)

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Anne
9 years ago

Michelle Meyrink also played Suzi Brent in Valley Girl. I wish she had stuck around the acting realm for a while longer. I’m convinced she would’ve eventually gotten bigger, and better, roles. I always liked her.

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Johanna
9 years ago

My HS-era friends and I watched this film every Tuesday afternoon for most of my senior year. I’m pretty certain that doing so prevented at least one tri-state killing spree. All of us identified with at least one character, and the movie was like a weekly blowing-off of steam for us.

The film has its flaws, of course, but I still love it to bits.

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Larry Mac
9 years ago

@31, through thorough and liberal use of shady software programs, I managed to collect all of the songs from the soundtrack except one – Tonio K’s The Tuff Do What?, which apparently doesn’t actually exist in any format in outside of the film.   FWIW, several classic Comsat Angels albums are going to re-released soon, including 7 Day Weekend, which includes I’m Falling.

 

Um, yeah, I’m obsessed with this movie and the soundtrack.  For 30 years now.

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Ragnarredbeard
9 years ago

Whenever I read these articles I like to go back and watch the movie, and it never fails that there will be at least one “whatever happened to” person in the movie.

So I’ve been reading this thread and a lot of people are into Michelle Meyrink.  I thought she did real nice work in Real Genius and if you get to watch Valley Girls and Outsiders you can see she had talent.  I think, though, that in the 80s context she may have been overshadowed by other actresses who were either more talented or producers/directors/execs thought they had enough brunettes already (the 80s were as far as I can remember big for blonde actresses).

So, in the interest of answering the question, it seems that Michelle left Hollywood in search of better things.  I found a video narrated by her and her husband about Zen Buddhism where she explains a bit about why she left Hollywood.  I was impressed by her strength and willingness to seek out something better for her.  I doubt she’ll read this thread, but even if she doesn’t, kudos to you Michelle.  Not everyone can drop a lucrative path for the right path.  Gotta respect that.

Anyway, if you wanna see the video, the first part with her in it starts around 2:20.  She’s also in it later talking about other things.

http://dharma-documentaries.net/zen-buddhism

 

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Ragnarredbeard
9 years ago

Arrrgh!  Right after I posted I noticed I forgot to add an interview she did a couple of years ago. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9sijLPjkxI

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Ian Osmond
9 years ago

When I was a kid and saw that movie for the first time (and I first saw it on VHS — I never saw it widescreen until DVDs came out, and some of the jokes are cut off in pan-and-scan), I decided that one of my life’s goals was to marry Jordan.

So I did.

Seriously, most of my best relationships have been with geeky brunettes with offbeat senses of humor who are better with STEM stuff than interpersonal stuff.  And the woman I married fits into that category, and I have been blissfully happy with her for the past twenty years, and intend to be blissfully happy with her forever.

REAL GENIUS was one of my models that helped me decide how to shape myself.  I decided to shape myself into someone whose technical skills were tempered by moral choices, and who knew that simple smarts don’t help if you don’t put in the work.  But that hard work can, itself, be as enjoyable as play — and that play is also valuable.

Also, that you should always have witty, snappy one-liners, and that, if somebody says “duck”, hit the ground fast.  (Seriously — did you notice that, when Chris and Mitch bring the dean and a congressman out to see the military test, and Chris says, “Duck,” the dean is on the ground BEFORE half the kids who KNOW what’s coming?)

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Tikon
9 years ago

Finally! Someone else who realizes the genius of this movie! Pun intended. I always preferred this movie, and was shocked when people called it under rated. 
A sequel would be awesome. Where the main cast’s offspring are also dealing with abuse of science. The kicker here is that Hathaway would probably be applauded nowadays for creating death drone technology.

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9 years ago

Back in the days of Napster, I managed to track down every song on the soundtrack except Tonio K’s “The Tuff Do What” — all together, there’s some great music.

I also have vague memories of an episode of the Nickelodeon show “Lights, Camera, Action” (hosted by Leonard Nimoy), which showed how they did the final popcorn effects. I wish I could find that again…

 

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Bill
9 years ago

Michelle Meyrink has another SF connection — she was good friends with Jeanne Robinson (Spider Robinson’s wife), and participated in fund raising for Jeanne near the end of her life:

http://boingboing.net/2009/09/08/spider-and-jeanne-ro.html

 

 

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Wicked Good Grrrl
9 years ago

Every so often I search the ‘net for a pattern to knit the sweater Jordan knits for Mitch.   I fear my skills and patience aren’t up to knitting it, but in a world rich with science-fiction inspired knits, I think that red-and-black argyle long-sleeved sweater would be the apex of SF knit in-jokes at a winter convention. 

 

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tikilovegod
9 years ago

This movie has always been one of my favorites. What made it even better for me was finding out that it was also a favorite of the professor who taught the laser courses at my university. He said it was his favorite because it was fun, and because they used laser terminology correctly instead of just spouting technobabble.

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9 years ago

@24 My favorite line from one of my favorite films.

It’s criminal that this movie and The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai: Across the 8th Dimension still have no Blu-ray releases.

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KateH
9 years ago

One of my all-time favorite films! I always try to gently nudge teenagers into sticking with school and finding what they are interested in by pointing out the coolest line (to me): “When you’re smart, people need you.”

My friend and I watch this movie at least once a year. We’ve gone hours speaking to each other using almost nothing but lines from various comedy films, Real Genius, Caddyshack, and Blazing Saddles being our top three.

Thanks for the lovely review!

infinitieh
9 years ago

Years ago, a friend tried to convince me that Pacific Tech was modeled after Harvey Mudd College, not Caltech. I wasn’t convinced then and I’m glad to see that my instincts were right.

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Stephen Salgaller
9 years ago

This was a great movie !

FYI: my girlfriend at the time in 1985, whom i saw the movie with, told me that her college roommate was exactly like the character Jordan. She talked and acted exactly the same – she even had the exact same haircut !

FYI (2): William Atherton graduated from my Alma matter, Carnegie Mellon University.

FYI (3): we now know that our Government DID try many times to kill Cuban leader Fidel Castro; the Laser flight test scene at the end of the movie used 1959 era cars in a parade to see if the system could kill someone in a slowly moving car – i presume the actual first target would have been Castro.

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7 years ago

I loved this movie as a child, but I haven’t sat down and watched it since I was in college, myself.  Thank you for reminding me that I need to remedy this situation!

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Dusty
7 years ago

I’m sorry, but neither movie is better than the other (at least one is honest about what it is, which is revenge against people for treating them like crap), although an even better revenge would be to study hard like they do, graduate, get into the tech sector, and then watch as they advance in it creating the Internet and modern computing (which I’ll bet most of them did anyway), while the assholes who treated them wrong become failures later in life as being star athletes and the hangers on of star athletes in college was all that they could do.

Ragnarredbeard, I’m willing to bet that being in a movie like Nice Girls Don’t Explode didn’t help Ms. Meyrink’s career either. That, and not being a young actress in the 2000’s and 2010’s, where a lot of the picking are (IMHO) better for actresses as young as she was back then.

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Dusty
7 years ago

It was still 75% male even among the undergrads at that time, so the gender ratio seemed right as well. Things have changed since then, and I hear that the ratio at Caltech is approaching parity now.

 

You know, that gives me an idea for a gender-swapped remake of this movie….

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Ron
7 years ago

Who would have guessed that thirty years later Disney, of all companies, would produce a worthy successor to Real Genius? The beginning of Big Hero 6 could easily be taking place at Pacific Tech, and the characters could be straight out of Real Genius!

Big Hero 6
* encourages kids to go to college
* has no romantic subplots whatsoever
* shows depression in a legitimate form while still being understandable to kids
* features multiple female characters with wildly different personalities in positive roles

I recommend them as a double-bill.

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Samir
7 years ago

@39 Lance Mountain

I actually saw that credit for Stacey too as I always read movie credits.  Was pretty cool to see it.  And you were one of my skateboarding heros growing up.  Avid skateboard is such a modest way of putting it–you helped inspire a generation bro!

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Stephen Sywak
6 years ago

This is one of my all-time favorite movies!  I would sit and watch it over and over again with my (now adult!) children!

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Tony Rodriguez
6 years ago

Excellent critique! Absolutely spot on. One of my all time favorite movies, I know every line by heart. Thanks!

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Ted
6 years ago

Just watched this movie again on Netflix. I agree that it still holds up, but I realized that it bugged me that Jordan is a 19-year-old woman who’s sleeping with 15-year-old Mitch. It actually bothered me more than the 40-something science groupie trying to sleep with him, because to her it was just a numbers game. Are we supposed to think that because of Jordan’s quirkiness she can’t have a relationship with someone her own age — or that she chooses Mitch because he’s emotionally immature? I realize times have changed, and this kind of age difference wasn’t seen as such a big deal back then (even if the genders had been reversed). But from today’s perspective it seems a little creepy.

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Alex
6 years ago

Thanks man. I’m watching this movie for a summer project and this review made my job a hell of a lot easier. 

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Peter Siersdale
6 years ago

Excellent

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Lazlo
6 years ago

Nice, thoughtful analysis. Just watch it – a wonderful flick.

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Mr. Chopsticks
5 years ago

Co-written by Pat Proft, who also co-wrote such gems as Bachelor Party, Police Academy and the Naked Gun films.

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Aaron Stone
4 years ago

I did and will forever have an enormous crush on the Jordan character. She was relatable to me. Intelligent, creative, frenetic and socially clueless. I imagined what it would be like to watch her create and how much fun it would be to marvel at what she brought forth into being. The character was so ably and lovingly portrayed by Meyrink.

Not only was she in Real Genius and RotN, she also appeared as Suzi Brent in Valley Girl. The student that the professor was sleeping with Susan Decker, was the lead character Julie in Valley Girl. The actor who played Lazlo, John Gries, was Uncle Rico in Napoleon Dynamite.

Kilmer’s starred as Simon Templar in The Saint in later years along with super smart yet vulnerable fusion researched by the name of Dr. Emma Russell, played by Elisabeth Shue.  Shue very convincingly portrayed the character as a woman of great intellect but with a need to meet someone able to reach her wider world. Kilmer’s Templar plays her and by the conclusion of the film, recognizes in her someone who is as talented has the same broad interest set. I will admit to having a penchant for super smart, spectrum female characters. There need to be more in films and TV portrayed by women who can do justice to, and advocate for more smart, creative women in technical fields.