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Malazan Reread of the Fallen: The Crippled God, Chapter Twenty (Part Two)

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Welcome to the Malazan Reread of the Fallen! Every post will start off with a summary of events, followed by reaction and commentary by your hosts Bill and Amanda (with Amanda, new to the series, going first), and finally comments from Tor.com readers. In this article, we’ll cover the second part of chapter twenty of The Crippled God.

A fair warning before we get started: We’ll be discussing both novel and whole-series themes, narrative arcs that run across the entire series, and foreshadowing.

Note: The summary of events will be free of major spoilers and we’re going to try keeping the reader comments the same. A spoiler thread has been set up for outright Malazan spoiler discussion.

CHAPTER SUMMARY

SCENE ONE
Shorthand is guarding the water wagons and thinking how he likes his new nickname and imagines himself telling tales of the time he and his mates took on the K’Chain. Mid-fantasy, he is struck from behind by soldiers planning to raid the water.

SCENE TWO
The raiders drag off Shorthand’s body and start to look for the water.

SCENE THREE
Pores crawls out from inspecting the bottom of a troublesome wagon. Blistig calls him off the wagon and as he jumps down, Pores collapses a bit, meaning the knife aimed at his heart sank into his upper chest instead. Blistig thinks he’ll bleed out and leaves him. Pores sees “The Grey Man” come for him.

SCENE FOUR
Balm wonders where Shorthand is, and as they near the wagon Throatslitter takes an arrow in his butt. Widdershins kills one of the raiders. Helian shows up and is told there are probably snipers out there. She orders an advance, but the raiders have taken off. They realize it was Blistig and consider killing him, but are interrupted by news that Pores needs a healer badly.

SCENE FIVE
Shortnose leads a group after Blistig’s gang as the heavies hear the rumors that Shorthands has a busted skull and probably won’t live and that Throatslitter had been wounded and probably would.

SCENE SIX
Blistig is found and Kindly orders everyone back and tells them not to touch him, though Balm says Kindly’s threat of execution don’t mean much to soldiers who think they’re dead in a day. Balm informs Kindly that Ruthan Gudd, Sort, and Skanarow are with Blistig, and that the Fist has Pores’ blood on his knife.

SCENE SEVEN
Deadsmell thinks Pores should already be dead and doesn’t know what to do without his magic. He decides to try the “radical” and clamp the bleed and sew it up with the help of the T’lan mass.

SCENE EIGHT
Blistig tells Kindly his attack on Pores was an “execution” of a “traitor,” saying he’d (Pores) been saving water for the officer corps, and maybe the marines and heavies. Ruthan Gudd tells Blistig that water “reserve” was given to the children, surprising Blistig with their knowledge of his secret stash. He tells them their silly “all in this together” mantra is BS, that “it’s us highborn who’ve earned the greater portion. On account of our greater responsibilities, our greater skills and talents.” He scoffs at the idea of consequences, saying they’re all dead anyway; he did Pores a favor doing it quickly, since “she’s already killed us all.” Kindly tells Blistig he’s not going to execute him; he’s going to fight him. The two “fight” to no result. Blistig tells them again Tavore has killed them all and adds they all know it too; he can see it in their eyes he says. They walk away, with Blistig telling Kindly he’ll wait for him on the other side of Hood’s Gate. Gudd tells Skanarow if anyone waits for Blistig it’d be Pores, but she says she doesn’t buy the whole post-death retribution idea. He tells her he won’t let her die and she asks if he’ll forget her, “like all the rest.” He tells her that’s “the wrong thing to think. For people like me, it’s not forgetting that’s our curse. It’s remembering.” She begs him then to leave her and memory of her behind, words he thinks he’s heard before.

SCENE NINE
Blistig fantasizes about killing Tavore slowly. Deadsmell and the Imass walk by with Pores on a stretcher. When Blistig asks what the point of that was, Deadsmell punches him to the ground, telling him Pores has been made an honorary marine, and so Blistig stabbed the wrong guy.

SCENE TEN
Badalle watches as yet another Khundryl child gives Saddic a toy, something that had been going on all day. She wants to cry, wants Saddic to do so as well, but neither can; the Snake cannot. She wonders how Saddic survives all this (to meet with the poet) as she knows he does. She see Gall and Hanavat exit the tent, with Hanavat holding the new baby, then Rutt moving toward them, and she is struck by the absence of Held. She anticipates Hanavat’s rejection of Rutt’s need and then is stunned by Hanavat’s gift as “she stepped forward then, that old woman, that mother with her last ever child, this stranger, and gently laid her baby into Rutt’s waiting arms.” It is, she thinks, “a gift without measure,” and as she watches Rutt walk “like a king,” with them, she thinks “Saddic, I will tell you to remember this. These are the Khundryl, the givers of gifts. Remember them, won’t you?”

SCENE ELEVEN
Fiddler walks alone at the front, wrestling with his doubts and thinks he is marching to his death. He is joined by the Bridgeburners: Whiskeyjack, Mallet, Trotts. He wonders where Quick Ben and Kalam are, and thinks how Hedge has “stepped out of this path. Can’t look him in the eye.” Whiskeyjack tells him Hedge is “where we want him” and that he’s “walked a lonely path.” Mallet adds that Hedge had probably thought he’d made it all the way back, only to find Fiddler “look away.” Fiddler realizes he needs to make it right by the dawn, before they all die, but Whiskeyjack tells him, “You think we’d see you put through all this for nothing?… Hedge [is] here to die beside you and that’s it? We sent him to you so you could just kiss and make up?… you’re not that important in this wretched scheme.” He thinks how the Bridgeburners “deserved a better way to die,” but one tells him “In your heads you’ve all built us up into something we never were.” Whiskeyjack asks Fiddler, who says he’s a Bonehunter not a Bridgeburner now, whose bones those are they are named after. He says “Nameless ones, long dead ones.” Whiskeyjack explains—“Bones of the Fallen,” then asks “who fell the furthest?” The Bridgeburners disappear, and Fiddler wonders if maybe Tavore knew all along, then thinks he’ll finds Hedge if he can.

SCENE TWELVE
Lostara Yil wants Cotillion back, wants to feel that power and will, and then would protect all she could. She wonders at Fiddler’s ability to keep to a straight line. He stops and turns to face them, then they come within ten paces of him—Tavore, Lostara, Henar, the Fists, Ruthan Gudd, Skanarow, Kindly, Blistig. They all stare at Tavore, and as the T’lan Imass draw close to her, Blistig says they’ll “get to” her anyway. In her mind, Lostara begs the Adjunct to give them something. She asks about options—and all are seemingly impossible. Blistig yells to the army that “she gave us nothing! We pleaded, we begged… she spat back in into our faces!” They ignore him, and he asks Tavore what power she has to command such loyalty. At Tavore’s command, Banaschar asks Lostara for her kit bag and takes out the gift from Bugg—the dagger—and hands it to Tavore. Banaschar tells her it needs her blood, and they all look at her. Tavore asks, “Haven’t you drunk enough?”

SCENE THIRTEEN
Fiddler is unable to watch, but he senses when she cuts her hand. The music he hears in his head deepens, fades, returns as she stabs the knife in the ground.

SCENE FOURTEEN
Water rises from the ground and they ready the casks to be filled.

 

Amanda’s Reaction

I’m interested in this quick look from Shorthand about how the new name allows him to turn his back on the past that his old name connects him to. Having never changed my name, I don’t know whether people have that thought—that they lose a part of their past by doing it. Anyone who knows want to comment?

And I do like Shorthand’s view on heavies: “But it ain’t just size makes a heavy. In fact, I know a Dal Honese heavy no bigger than a toad, and no prettier either. It’s all attitude.”

I think when Shorthand gets taken down, I’m more disturbed by the actions of the regulars—watching the scuffle as they walk on. These faceless regulars don’t come off well here.

It amuses me the way the cook tells Pores they were waiting til it got really bad before using the grease on the axles of the wagon—what would constitute really bad, considering what they are going through?!

And then amusement at Pores’ little diatribe against Quartermaster Pores by Master-Sergeant Pores. Although that amusement quickly fades in the shock of watching Pores being knifed by Blistig in an attack that was meant to be fatal. I might have lacked respect for Blistig before now, but here is where he completely crosses the line. This wasn’t an attack in the heat of the moment, this was a carefully considered action.

One thing that struck me was Hellian’s instant response to try and find those who were wielding the crossbows—firstly, these aren’t the actions of a drunken sot anymore, secondly, it shows the support they have for each other in the event of an attack. And that just isn’t being seen in the regulars, who ended up melting away when they realised what was going down. The two crossbowmen were able to hide in the regulars, rather than being hauled up.

Having said that, we then are given this: “Just as the heavies weren’t all oxen, the regulars weren’t all pack mules. They’d seen, they’d listened. They’d made up their minds.”

This is a crazy thought from Deadsmell as he attempts radical notions of surgery: “Unbelievable. I’m dying, even as I’m trying to save another man from doing the same. And really, is there any point to this?” I think that this shows a form of compassion—continuing to try to save another human being when it seems utterly futile.

It is pathetic, but I can’t help laughing a little at the fight between Kindly and Blistig. It reminds me a little of the fight that Xander and Harmony had in Buffy.

The impact of that scene where Badalle watches the last Khundryl child being placed in the arms of Rutt, and him being gathered in to sit with them—well, that left tears in my eyes.

I love this scene where Fiddler walks among the ghosts of the Bridgeburners, particularly when he is reminded of how it really was with the marines. How they mutinied, and how bad it was for officers to try and take charge of them. Takes me all the way back to Ganoes Paran and his first few days among them. And then that moment when Fiddler realises why they are Bonehunters.

I know that Mael said she needed to wait until dire need to use the knife and bring the water—but surely Tavore could have done this a few days back, when there were still more alive? Why did she wait so long. The scene is good, but I am dissatisfied with her behaviour. As soon as people started dying from thirst and she knew they couldn’t make it—that was a dire need indeed. This just seems to be waiting too long.

Bill’s Reaction

This is a tough middle here of this chapter, with Shorthand and Pores both leaving us hanging as to their condition. Granted, we haven’t known Shorthand in any lengthy detail, but as we’ve said before, Erikson does a consistently excellent job of creating a fullness of character within a relatively short period of time. But Pores. How cruel an ending this would be so close to an ending. So one has to hope of course that the “radical” non-magical treatment works. I love how that’s the desperation play.

I have to say, even with all of Blistig’s goings on, I still remember being shocked by his knifing of Paran, and his walking away.

And I’ve said before I have a lot of empathy/sympathy for the idea of Blistig as broken, as a “normal” guy rather than an exceptional one. But it’s hard to have any sympathy for the guy who spouts the “hierarchy” speech.

But oh my gosh, sure we’ve talked about all the spectacularly cinematic scenes in this series—Draconus stepping into the world, dragons, etc., but I would love—love!—to see the Kindly-Blistig “fight.”

More mystery about Ruthan Gudd, or if not “more,” at least more reminder, and this one a poignant, painful one, in Skanarow’s understanding that he will go on, as he seemingly always has, and more poignantly her desire that he forget her, her desire that she not cause him pain.

And then one of another in a string of killer, just killer moments, in this last half of the book, the scenes that just rip your heart out of your chest and squeeze it tight: Badalle already defending Held-less Rutt, anticipating already Hanavat’s fear of him, her rejection of him, and then watching as Hanavat hands her just-born treasure of a child into his warped arms. You just need to pause there a while and let that scene—its aching pain and sharp, sharp beauty—linger for a while.

Then a different sort of pain, as we’re reminded in the Bridgeburner reunion scene of Whiskeyjack and that damn leg, of Mallet and his guilt, of Trotts. Though it doesn’t take long to enjoy the way they put Fiddler in his place a bit.

And once more into the black hole of What did Tavore know and when did she know it?

Love that music from Fiddler that Lostara thinks she hears.

And Mael’s gun comes off the mantel!

I like how Tavore, despite all this army has gone through, still checks to make sure this need is “dire” indeed. Icarias? Too far—yep. Imass can’t get us water? Yep. Think of the strength of will to wait until this moment to use Mael’s gift. (sure, there’s the cost too, but I prefer to think it’s the former more than the latter that makes her wait until now).

I like too how Blistig does get some punishment here at this scene—not the easy way out of execution, but the complete rejection—the befuddling, incomprehensible, maddeningly frustrating to him rejection—of his “call to arms” against Tavore.

This chapter begins with a birth and ends with a birth of sorts—water—the stuff of life after all, that will give new life to the Bonehunters, to the Snake. But for how long? That closing image has a bit of duality to it: the water of life, yes, but also rising like a threatening flood, forcing them to higher ground. The “thick as blood” as allusion to blood being thicker than water with regard to family, a word bandied about with regard to this army multiple times, but also the image of, well, blood.

And while the water rises, the jade strangers shine down on it all…


Amanda Rutter is the editor of Strange Chemistry books, sister imprint to Angry Robot.

Bill Capossere writes short stories and essays, plays ultimate frisbee, teaches as an adjunct English instructor at several local colleges, and writes SF/F reviews for fantasyliterature.com.

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10 years ago

I know that Mael said she needed to wait until dire need to use the knife and bring the water—but surely Tavore could have done this a few days back, when there were still more alive? Why did she wait so long.

I disagree. I believe she had to wait until they found a place where water could be drawn up – the shallow basin the BH reached, as mentioned some lines before, must have been a lake long years before.

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Tufty
10 years ago

I don’t get why SE put in Blistig’s “highborn” speech and sentiment. It really came out of left field for me. Sure, Blistig has become something of an asshole after being forcibly attached to Tavore’s 14th Army, which he seemed to resent more or less from the start and resents even more so once they leave the Empire and he sees no hope of any them surviving or accomplishing anything. Yes, as he gets more desperate he’s become less compassionate, less trusting, more self-centered and more prone to violence and corruption.

However, Blistig’s motivations up until now had never, IMO, hinted towards any sort of belief in his own personal superiority. When he tried to have Pores set aside that water, it was for a whole Company. Basically, since Aren, Blistig has been loyal to the soldiers under him, even if he’s been an ass about it. I get that he’s not saying he’s actually a nobleman, but this entire sentiment from him just seems very at odds with his motivations and character until now. Very jarring.

stevenhalter
10 years ago

Blistig goes completely bonkers, grasps at straws and doesn’t grasp at all the sentiments around him. Somewhere in there are the reasons for his actions here. The actions themselves are beyond the pale of course.

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Eoin8472
10 years ago

I still have compassion for Blistig.

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10 years ago

This chapter was where my Blistig-hate got furious. Pores is one of my favourite characters in the 14th. I loved the father-son relation Kindly and Pores are having, with none being able to fool the other.

And I really loved Pores being made an honorary Marine. Remember it was Pores who took Tavore’s horse to welcome our Marines back after Y’ghatan back in The Bonehunters

Erikson timed the moment of using Bugg’s knife well, right after Blistig got frantic.

Hellian is Hellian. She may be a drunk, but she’s a very capable Sergeant. If I were recruited into the 14th, I’d want to be in her squad.

The scene with the baby was breathtaking.

Now, the Bonehunters are watered up, let’s get to the action :D

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10 years ago

Also, the scene with Fiddler and WhiskeyJack was great, and needed.

It is easy to romanticize the BridgeBurners, but as Hedge already told Ganoes Paran in The Bonehunters, basically they were a bunch of unruly cutthroats. Fiddler really was an exception, and the greatest of them all.

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BDG
10 years ago

I too was a bit put-off by the classist speech by Blistig because he hasn’t shown any sign of actually believeing those things, and if I’m not mistaken (which I could easily be) he wasn’t to fond of becoming a Fist in the first place so it feels a bit manipulative to shove that in there at the last moment. I understand it’s to show the he’s becoming a bit unhinged but his violence and insane babbling about Pores being a traitor was, imo, more than enough to show that off without undermining his entire reason to being unhinged. Other than that this is, with many of these chapter here at the end, one of my favourite of the entire series. I like the sweeping POV we get of the characters, and how quickly and deeply we dive into them.

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10 years ago

. Wait for it. I believe you will get your answer later on.

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Karambhaish
10 years ago

Cry, then later on cry some more and then a few more pages, cry. I never anticipated that a magic and dragons series would wring out of me such tears.

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Jordanes
10 years ago

@2 Tufty: Totally agree, that speech made no sense to me coming from Blistig. To me, his was the voice of faithlessness and fear of what you can’t control, voicing the doubts that no one else would (but as one in a position of command, he should not have been, at least not so openly and publicly). He’s fearful and selfish, and his bravado comes out to mask those traits, but he’s never shown an indication of believing in his own innate superiority, and certainly not as someone who sides with some ‘highborn agenda’.

Blistig is the one soldier depicted who doesn’t allow himself to fall under Tavore’s spell – and I think that was totally necessary in order to provide a different lens on what Tavore has forced these people to endure through her decisions – yes, we know it’s all for a greater good, but Blisting’s fall illustrates some of the personal cost.

So yeah, the speech did feel like a literary misstep coming from Blistig, but I also still have compassion for him, even if I hate his attempted murder of Pores.

On a different note, on my first read I had entirely forgotten about the dagger, so that solution really came out of nowhere to me!

Mayhem
10 years ago

Oh yes, the dagger was the perfect gun to fire here – its the kind of thing that screams DEM and then you realise just how well it has been set up, and so so satisfying “Haven’t you drunk enough” indeed.

Blistig I see here as a different example of how one can crack under pressure – most subsume themselves to the Adjunct, while Blistig focusses himself on survival, and on how HE will get out. The anguished cries about nobility and treason I think are an example of self-justification … she betrayed us, therefore she betrayed ME therefore I can betray her with no consequences.

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10 years ago

As a first time reader I have never quite been sure if the Bonehunters would survive the glass desert. With any other author you would know they would survive but in Erikson’s books of the “fallen” you always live in fear that he will kill off even major characters.
The Rutt and Havanat scene allayed my fears. Badalle’s thoughts draw the symbolism of Held being the hope that Rutt carried for the Snake. By extension, with Held gone they (and the Bonehunters) have no hope. Now Havanat gives Rutt a new “Held”. This is a powerful symbol of hope reborn, and at this moment I knew the Bonehunters would survive the desert. And what better symbol is there of new hope, or hope reborn, than a new born baby?

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BDG
10 years ago

@11 yeah I’m not buying it. One of the many things does well is character (despite what some people say on the internet, not here obviously) so when you have a character that has been about his soldiers go off about some absurd hiearchy of being and have a secert case of water it’s a bit jarring. He had already betrayed her by stabbing Pores and stealing water, and he already made clear his justification for that this entire book, why throw in something that goes against already laid out character parameters?

Mayhem
10 years ago

@13 Fair call, it is a bit of a stretch. Blistig is definitely one for the questions post book.

Cassanne
10 years ago

My best theory is Blistig is desperately trying to commit suicide-by-cop. Trying anything he can think of to enrage Tavore, but Tavore cannot be enraged and he just doesn’t get that. He is like a child trying to get his parent angry (any of you have stubborn kids? I do…) because he has to be reassured of her love. He mentions the nobility excuse because Tavore has culled nobles before and is one herself, it’s another attempt of getting at her. As is Pores, as is the water.

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10 years ago

That is a pretty satisfying theory for me @@@@@ 15 Cassane.

Blistig has almost been the voice of the reader in some aspects here. especially i think with his call to the soldiers. but tavore is a closed book. to us, to blistig, even to those who believe in her, since they came to their loyalty through inner journeys.

Blistig is desperate for some response from Tavore, anything really. whatever will get her to engage him in the reality he’s built, where tavore wants to kill him. interesting how he might take her saving all their lives here.

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10 years ago

Blistig may not believe what he’s saying. He might be saying it because he thinks Tavore might believe it. He knows she is noble born so use an argument that might work even if he doesn’t believe it himself.

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BDG
10 years ago

@15 that’s a great theory! This might sound silly but Blistig has always bugged me in this book because it seems his character goes off the rails here but with your theory of ‘suicide-by-cop’ it just instantly clicks. Thank you.

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10 years ago

Mael’s dagger has always bothered me. Why was she so reluctant to use it? I understand that she probably had to wait until they reached the dried sea for it to be effective but what was the cost to her other than some spilled blood?
Also, it seems pretty clear that crossing the glass desert would have proved impossible wothout the dagger yet it seemed at the time to be an unexpected gift. Did Tavore chage her plans because of the dagger? If she had always planned attempting the desert then it was a pretty terrible plan.
The only thing I can think of is that she had information or a prophesy that they would be able to cross and she trusted that it would all work out somehow. Seems flimsy to me.

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10 years ago

The cost to her so far has included (but is not nearly limited to) dead and dying soldiers — blood and more blood. And yet the “gifts” of the gods always want/ask more. Also, a little lost blood when you’re starving and dehydrated isn’t quite the same thing as donating a pint to Red Cross on your day off. I don’t think the dagger changed the plan — which I won’t go into at this early stage — so much as added a pinprick of light at the end of the tunnel. The ambivalence of hope.

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10 years ago

@19 haven’t read the chapter for a while but wasn’t it also that they needed to be about half way to their destination point, ie if they’d summoned the water too soon then they risked using it all up again.

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10 years ago

Apart from what Renz says, it’s also important that the dagger gets used when at the least past the lowest point of the basin.

You don’t want to have the road ahead of you flooded.

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10 years ago

re the dagger
Maybe Tavore & Mael now have a Jhistal bond between them which neither of them probably wants?

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Tufty
10 years ago

Hmm, I don’t think I can buy the suicide-by-cop Blistig idea – Tavore wasn’t even there when he gave that highborn speech, and it was Rudd who brought up the fact that Tavore was a noblewoman, not Blistig. Seems tenuous to me.

re the “Haven’t you drunk enough [of my blood]?” – I don’t think the phrasing really supports this, but one could almost imagine she is thinking about Felisin in a family=blood way. Maybe if the phrasing was more “Haven’t you taken enough” instead of drunk or “Haven’t I shed enough”. But not quite.

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10 years ago

@15 Cassanne “He is like a child trying to make a parent angry” is a great insight, but attempted suicide doesn’t ring true for me. Instead I thought of situations where a person has a great love/desire and it is thwarted, so the love/desire gets expressed violently and manifests as hate. Thinking of Blistig this way, he wants to follow. He wants to believe in Tavore. He wants her to have a master plan. However the farther they go the less rational her decisions seem; the longer she gives nothing; the more he struggles with his faith in her; the more he lashes out.

In that interpretation he goes beyond a foil for those who accept Tavore’s leadership to one for all the main characters acting on faith – Paran, Shadowthrone, Cotillion, The Crippled God, Tavore herself, etc. These primary players don’t have a single master plan. Paran is acting; Shadowthrone is acting; Tavore is acting; TCG is acting but none of them know what or how the others are doing, as we see when they question each other but get no answers. They’re just taking the best action (in both meanings), trusting their allies will do their part, and leaving themselves open to opportunity. On the flip side you have Blistig demanding to know why and how and that there is a real chance of success. Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be much chance, but does that mean you don’t try? The Bonehunters thread mirrors that of Draconus, Silchas Ruin, Gruntle, and the Shake, this way. They have no reason to expect success in their endeavors but they must try anyway and hope that an opportunity for success presents itself, as it did for the Shake but didn’t for Gruntle. Blistig represents the other path that leads to why try?

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10 years ago

@15 great theory! that certainly sounds like it clicks together in my head.

As for WHEN Tavore used the dagger, I think thats definitely a logistics/topology thing, if she used it too early, they might run out, if she used it in the wrong place, it might make their journey longer, etc. etc. so I think she needed to use it where it would provide them water for a significant period of time, while not getting entirely in their way.
As for her comments, I thought it was more of an elder god thing. They only accept worship and only grant power through blood.

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10 years ago

I was always under the impression that Tavore didn’t know what the dagger would do, and so she had to simply trust Mael’s gift to be true to what he said – that she must use it at her most desperate hour – and so she had to be sure that it really was her most desperate hour before using it, else risking losing the gift. So she waits until the very last minute, the day no one believed would be anything but their last.

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10 years ago

That is certainly a valid point as well, and to that point, I think that the “one more day” would have hopefully made a big difference in where this lake was created, even if nobody KNEW that was going to happen.

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10 years ago

But if Tavore didn’t knew what the dagger would do, how did she know that after giving it blood (elder god magic requires it) to stick it in the ground?

Great theories about Blistig from both Cassanne and darth.agilus especially in explaining the “highborn speech” which is so completely out of character that it made me stop and think “Wait, what ?? I don’t get the sudden change in Blistig’s behavior…where’s this highborn crap coming from?”

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10 years ago

Well if you thrust a knife up or horizontally in any direction, you’re just gonna find air until it hits the ground anyway. She cut out the middleman and thrust down.

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10 years ago

@30 :)))

But really, why wasn’t enough to just cut the hand? Maybe it’s nitpicking but my impression was that there were no instructions given by Bugg on how to use it…so how’d she know? This ties in to what others said that if she didn’t know when and how to use it , why use it now and not earlier…

Mayhem
10 years ago

Well, she did have Quick Ben along for the first part of the trip. It is pretty logical to assume that he did some analysis of the gift, and gave some advice on what to do with it to Tavore. He has shown some knowledge of arcane artifacts before, and all they needed to know was how to activate it, not necessarily what it would do..

After all, they concealed the dagger in Lostara’s baggage after “we” knew she would stay close, which implies discussion on the subject.

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10 years ago

@32 True, true. It makes sense now you said it…thx for the patience :)

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10 years ago

My own view is the timing of the dagger was driven less by topography and logistics as by adhering to the letter of what Mael had told her–she had to really be out of options (now why that is, I’m not so sure but . . . ). Thus the questions to everyone to figure out of that was indeed the case.

As for sticking it in the ground, I can buy the Quick Ben having an idea theory, or an off-stage discussion of the matter. But it also has a kind of internal logic to it–he’s a water god, you’re in a desert

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10 years ago

I agree with Bill. Bugg knew where they were going, knew what their need would be, and gave them a water etched dagger. And they knew he knew this as well. They very well may assume that his gift will bring water. And if I didn’t immediately start gushing… One might guess that it would go in the ground. Quick probably helped too.

A more interesting question is how? Does offering blood to this artifact of an elder god open a portal to his realm? Well… The fresh water part of his realm.

And waiting till their need was most dire can be prophetic as well as logistical. Prophecy has a knack for that.

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Maki
10 years ago

Tavore’s wait to use the knife seemed obvious to me…they were in a basin when she used it. Banaschar confirmed they were in the basin before she used the knife. I assumed the basin is what let the water pool and that if she had used it on the flat open land, the desert would have just sucked up the water.

I’m almost caught up to the re-read and this is my first post. Thanks for all of this, it has been invaluable on my MBotF journey.

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10 years ago

@@@@@#15, 24, 25, etc.
My thoughts on Blistig’s motivations don’t contradict the “suicide-by-cop” notion, or other ideas, but I think there is a simpler and over-arching explanation for his actions. In that or an earlier chapter he clearly states his yearning for the security of Aren and his old-boys network, where he was happy as a big fish in the small pond. Blistig is the small-minded, conservative type, fearful of change, wrapped up in his insecure, inflated ego. A control-freak. He had been resentful of Tavore ever since she dragged him out of his little fiefdom. He had felt threatened and vulnerable in his loss of control, and this grew worse with every step, from Y’Ghatan to Lether to the Glass Desert. The water was his last, desperate effort to exercise control over his increasingly insecure environment (in service of his own, egotistical needs). Given that context, both his nobility diatribe and his justification that Pores was a traitor make sense.

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